Doug & Sandra Fan Club - Page 2

Stanleyguy · 28-10-2004, 07:38

Take it from one who knows.

There are plenty of people at HBC who deserve having the rip taken out of them. Doug and Sandra Hayes are not among them. They work hard and their hearts are in the right place. At least they live in the borough.

How many senior officers can say the same? Lets start with Management Team.......

WillowTheWhisp · 28-10-2004, 07:51

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Originally Posted by Stanleyguy

They work hard and their hearts are in the right place. At least they live in the borough.

But do we actually need them to be doing whatever it is they are working hard at doing and is it actually preventing any crime?

This borough is supposedly strapped for cash. I for one would prefer more police catching real criminals than a couple of Crime Czars sorting out whether or not little old ladies have got smoke alarms. (oops maybe I shouldn't have said that. We'll be getting Smoke Alarm Czars next.)

Acrylic-bob · 28-10-2004, 08:23

I agree, Willow. Perhaps Stanleyguy would like to join the fan club and regale us all with tales of the sterling work accomplished by our two intrepid heroes. I'm sure that we would all be thrilled to bits to hear what they have actually done to make Hyndburn a better place in which to live. After all, "by their fruits shall ye know them".

Darby · 28-10-2004, 08:25

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp

But do we actually need them to be doing whatever it is they are working hard at doing and is it actually preventing any crime?

This borough is supposedly strapped for cash. I for one would prefer more police catching real criminals than a couple of Crime Czars sorting out whether or not little old ladies have got smoke alarms. (oops maybe I shouldn't have said that. We'll be getting Smoke Alarm Czars next.)

KNOCK...KNOCK...KNOCK....Excuse me Madam, but have you got smoke alarms fitted.

Errr no officer....I don't smoke.....

Well you could have a fire...and..

Yes Officer I have an electric fire

Well madam it could go up in smoke..and then you'd need a smoke detector to protect your houshold.

AAhhhh Officer...we've got a good Budgie that squawks when it sees smoke

Sorry Madam, that will not do...now would you please accompany me to the Police Station where you will be formally charged.

Certainly Officer...however, the Police Station has just closed for the night, would you like to wait outside until morning???

AAHH I SEE A POTENTIAL CRIMINAL IN THE OFFING!! CALL OUT THE CRIME CZARS!!!!!!! FARENHEIT 451 HAD NOTHING ON THIS!!

Acrylic-bob · 28-10-2004, 09:38

>>How many senior officers can say the same? Lets start with Management Team.......<<

Well, I don't think anyone has much mud worth the slinging when it comes to The Management Team, they appear to be pretty adept at covering their tracks. However if Stanleyguy would like to contribute a few gobbets of the juiciest bits of Council Gossip, maybe in a P.M., I'm sure We could arrange a new Fan Club. My slinging arm could do with the exercise.

Darby, I liked that, very Pythonesque.

Stanleyguy · 28-10-2004, 12:40

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Originally Posted by Acrylic-bob

they appear to be pretty adept at covering their tracks

My point exactly. And they are paid mega-bucks to keep their tracks covered. And they go home to their houses each evening well away from the borough leaving the likes of Doug and Sandra to account for their actions.

Anyone able to name any of these faceless bureaucrats?

Acrylic-bob · 28-10-2004, 16:01

Oh I'm getting a bit long in the tooth for all this teasing, If you have something to say Stanleyguy, for goodness sake, spit it out!

WillowTheWhisp · 28-10-2004, 16:53

I suppose Doug and Sandra are very nice people in their own right. Our complaint is probably with whoever thought to create the bizarre postions of Crime Czars in the first place and presumably they also defined the roles. Perhaps whoever dreamed up the idea should be asked to explain to us exactly what the benefits are to us as Hyndburn residents.

Acrylic-bob · 28-10-2004, 17:47

Everybody is a very nice person in their own right - well almost everybody,( Myra Hindley wasn't very nice). But not everybody stands for public office and invites the electorate to give them a mandate to manage the borough, and then proceed to make such a mess of it that we all wish that they hadn't bothered. And then get really upset when we, the electorate, berate them for their lacklustre performance. Nearly all the current crop of councilors will have made promises at election time to get on top of the refuse collection fiasco - have they done it? Doug and Sandra were given the job of tackling crime three months ago and in that time have they managed to make one iota of difference? It is Rix who is charged by the council with the regeneration of the boroughs run down areas and what do we see, half measures, funding that mysteriously dries up and a lack of imagination that is comparable only to the degree of hubris thus far displayed.

It strikes me that the people of this town have been handed the s**tty end of the stick by HBC so often in the last thirty years that they now have come to expect nothing else. To be perfectly frank, I couldn't care less if Doug and Sandra's hearts are in the right place or not, the location of their viscera is a matter of complete indifference to me as it must be to many others. I want to see RESULTS !

I do however agree with Stanleyguy's suggestion that the HBC Management Team have as many, if not more, questions to answer concerning the woeful state of decline in the borough, as our elected incompetants.

Stanleyguy · 29-10-2004, 10:57

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Originally Posted by Acrylic-bob

It is Rix who is charged by the council with the regeneration of the boroughs run down areas and what do we see, half measures, funding that mysteriously dries up and a lack of imagination that is comparable only to the degree of hubris thus far displayed.

Is he still there? I thought he'd left.

Acrylic-bob · 29-10-2004, 11:14

Don't be daft. that one will never leave while there are still a few coppers left in the pot.

Stanleyguy · 29-10-2004, 11:28

I heard he'd had a better offer from one of the companies HBC are in Partnership with.

Or am I totally wide of the mark?

Bazf · 29-10-2004, 11:53

I know this is old news but

What are Hyndburn BoroughCouncil’s areas for improvement?

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Its finances have been weakened by ineffective financial management. It went over budget significantly in 2002/03 and this continued into 2003/04.

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Its housing repairs service is not efficient and cannot demonstrate value for money.

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Residents are not always clear aboutwhat standards of service they can expect.

Date: 24 June 2004

Cllr Britcliffe added “

The financial crisis obviously was the main reason we were knocked back to fair.

I really feel that in this particular case fair is unfair,and that we have been misjudged us on this occasion, the assessment underestimates the goodservices that we provide day in, day out and the hard work that we put in to improving theseservices.”

and now we have a new website at 130,000 quid and 2 jobs that didnt need to be created if the crime czars are doing there job they should be arresting the whole blo&dy council.

WillowTheWhisp · 29-10-2004, 18:22

On the subject of Nigel Rix Stanleyguy, I refer you to the Project Phoenix thread which explains that Mr Rix is currently the chairman of "Hyndburn First" (otherwise known as "Hyndburn council's regeneration arm" or the bunch that manage to have lost £500,000 somewhere along the way.

Busman747 · 29-10-2004, 23:08

Two "Vigilanties" were discovered late last night in a dark alleyway. When arrested, they said "we were only trying to help!"