Drink Driving

[chav1]

Originally Posted by lancsdave

The original point never mentioned 1 pint, you dragged that one in to it

cant you read ?

I Believe the government are attempting to cut the level of alcohol a driver can have in his blood by half whilst driving,

now with the legal level been 1 pint i would say that is exactly what this thread was about and the reduction of the 1 pint limit , i highly doubt crabby was saying its ok to get smashed out of your face and drive a car

[***Mr D***]

Originally Posted by Crabby

I Believe the government are attempting to cut the level of alcohol a driver can have in his blood by half whilst driving, it may be being tagged on when they apply to allow random breath testing by the police.
So all the hard working people who like to have a decent drink of an evening will be over the limit the following morning.
This will make no difference to the hard core of T*****s that insist on driving whilst drunk
When will the government learn!

Originally Posted by chav1

you see the topics getting shifted again , the orgional point is that 1 pint does not make you a drunk driver but poeple insist on bringing up a heavy nights drinking and other factors regarding a lot of alchol consumtion and everyone knows that drunk driving is bad but not one person against the 1 pint limit has yet to provide any evidence or half decent proof what so ever that 1 pint makes you unfit to be in control of a car

Wasnt the 1st post more in relation to the morning after?

Taking the consideration that some people could feel fine, be fine but there blood level might put them over the limit as the goverment are attempting to lower this allowance.

[jambutty]

Originally Posted by lancsdave

I would accept that as a valid point if somebody comes back with a list of products that you can consume in the time it takes to drink a pint and still contain the same level of alchohol

There has to be a line drawn somewhere to take into account inadvertent consumption of alcohol in normal everyday products and medicines. Someone mentioned earlier about one brand of mints, I think it was, that can fool the breathaliser into thinking that the fumes are alcoholic. What about a domestic sherry trifle? People cook with wine and brandy as well as beer. There is no label to read on those.

So levelling it at around one pint’s worth of normal beer does just that. It isn’t about how much can be consumed in the same time that it takes to swallow a pint of beer. It’s about the alcoholic content of a normal pint of beer. I have seen people take two hours over one pint. I’ve even done it myself on occasions.

[Neil]

Originally Posted by jambutty

There has to be a line drawn somewhere to take into account inadvertent consumption of alcohol in normal everyday products and medicines.

Exactly, that's why you could not have a zero limit. They would have to be very careful setting a very low limit. I would hope they are deciding to lower the limit by research and testing on people of the effects of the current limit.
As far as knowing your own limit - that is ok but too many people must think their own limit is 3 or 4 pints.

[chav1]

Originally Posted by ***Mr D***

Wasnt the 1st post more in relation to the morning after?

Taking the consideration that some people could feel fine, be fine but there blood level might put them over the limit as the goverment are attempting to lower this allowance.

ok lets try this

if you go out friday night and have 1 pint and get breathalized saturday morning you will show up as legaly fit to drive under teh current laws and rightfully so but if they reduce the allowed limit and repeat the same procedure you could find yourself with a driving ban which is ludricous and will effect a lot of people

if i go out for an indian meal at a resturant i dont want to have to sip coke with my madrass i want a pint of lager and i certainly dont want to use a taxi as i like to eat out of town a lot and i have a car which i will use for as long as the law allows it

[chav1]

Originally Posted by Neil

Exactly, that's why you could not have a zero limit. They would have to be very careful setting a very low limit. I would hope they are deciding to lower the limit by research and testing on people of the effects of the current limit.
As far as knowing your own limit - that is ok but too many people must think their own limit is 3 or 4 pints.

and them people are idiots

i feel like i must point out that i am not for drunk driving i am merely argueing the case that the current level allowed is fine as it is

[lancsdave]

Originally Posted by chav1

cant you read ?



now with the legal level been 1 pint i would say that is exactly what this thread was about and the reduction of the 1 pint limit , i highly doubt crabby was saying its ok to get smashed out of your face and drive a car

Yes I can read and it still doesn't mention in that first post anything about 1 pint. I didn't know the legal limit was measured in pints, in fact I couldn't even tell you what the legal limit is.

[chav1]

Originally Posted by lancsdave

Yes I can read and it still doesn't mention in that first post anything about 1 pint. I didn't know the legal limit was measured in pints, in fact I couldn't even tell you what the legal limit is.

itss actualy measure in units but the general guide used by people is pints

although i wouldnt drive after 1 pint of vodka


if you ask somone whats teh legal limit most peopel will reply with 1 pint but the smart arses in the world willreply with units lol

[***Mr D***]

Originally Posted by chav1

ok lets try this

if you go out friday night and have 1 pint and get breathalized saturday morning you will show up as legaly fit to drive under teh current laws and rightfully so but if they reduce the allowed limit and repeat the same procedure you could find yourself with a driving ban which is ludricous and will effect a lot of people

Even under the new proposed limit, you should still be ok as it would of left your system by then.

IMO, Its more pointed at those that go out and binge, or drink till late in the morning, then think that they are ok to drive in the morning after a nights sleep.

[chav1]

Originally Posted by ***Mr D***

Even under the new proposed limit, you should still be ok as it would of left your system by then.

IMO, Its more pointed at those that go out and binge, or drink till late in the morning, then think that they are ok to drive in the morning after a nights sleep.

altering the law wont stop them people though , teh only peopel that will effect are the decent sensible people who have 1 pint and go onto orange juice etc

if they change the law further it will prevent these decent people from having even 1 pint with their meal as they will be over the limit when they leave the pub or resturant

[jambutty]

Originally Posted by chav1

you see the topics getting shifted again , the orgional point is that 1 pint does not make you a drunk driver but poeple insist on bringing up a heavy nights drinking and other factors regarding a lot of alchol consumtion and everyone knows that drunk driving is bad but not one person against the 1 pint limit has yet to provide any evidence or half decent proof what so ever that 1 pint makes you unfit to be in control of a car

they cant prove their point so they argue a totaly different one so please when replying to this post for the love of god prove your point that you are not ok to drive after 1 pint because the govenment spent millions reseaching the effects of alchol on a lot of various people of all ages and sex and came to teh conclusion that 1 pint is ok.

just because you disagree it dosnt make you right - research and testing does

If you can accept my word chav1 I can tell you that if I drank a pint of normal beer I would not be fit to drive. I would be within the legal limit but the effect of that pint on me would probably be the same as four or five pints on a regular drinker.

[***Mr D***]

Originally Posted by chav1

altering the law wont stop them people though , teh only peopel that will effect are the decent sensible people who have 1 pint and go onto orange juice etc

if they change the law further it will prevent these decent people from having even 1 pint with their meal as they will be over the limit when they leave the pub or resturant

I now see your point and the relation to the one pint.

The Law
You MUST NOT drive with a breath alcohol level higher than 35mg/100ml or a blood alcohol level of more than 80mg/100ml

So a blood reading halfed would be 40mg/100ml

After 2 units 1 pint of beer 50mg (Approx)/100ml)

Suppose its all down to individuallaty, I know One Pint (being someone who doesnt drink much) would effect my driving, therfore I stand by dont drink anything and drive.

But I also agree with someone who drinks regular with a meal should be able to enjoy a pint.

IMO the new proposed rulling is maybe a bit overkill. As already said it wont stop those who know they drink and drive.

Where did the origonal information come from?

[lancsdave]

While there are those who defend the current system, and those who don't, it's clear there are still a lot of people who can't adhere/know/guess/be responsible about it.

Drink-drive deaths are at their highest level since 1992.

[maccy]

Originally Posted by accymel

Where does it stop tho thats the trouble with this country, its no drink & drive policy but u are allowed to have a pint or 2 thats like saying for the future no smoking ban that you're ok to have half a fag before u is fined, if its a no go then its a no go end of.

what ever u want 2 say this is the truth dont drink & drive but u can av a bit!! were's the sence of it, no arguing this way its easy dont drink, FULL STOP!!

[accymel]

Cant beleive how pathetic some of u are for condoning drinking EVEN ONE pint & driving - just hope to god & pray that u dont cause an accident or fatalities to innocent people!!!!! I think the law should go to zero & allow for medicines as long as that states u are fine to drive, cos in meantime your playing with lives including your own.


What one pint might do to one & yet to another isnt in question the law has to set a clear boundary for everyone!!