East Accrington/phoenix projects... - Page 2

park381 · 28-04-2005, 09:33

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Originally Posted by entwisi

There is talk of Phoenix 2 which affects the other side of Blackburn road around the area that teh Grammer school used to be. I was wondering if it was this bit that Mani was talking about as I guessed that those affected by phase 1 would probably have known about it before now

Don't know about phoenix phase 2, there's no mention of that on the HBC web site but that's not surprising since nothing on HBC web site is up to date. It all smacks of the late 60's early 70's where good houses were demolished to make way for those tower blocks, another Architects dream. If they are prepared to pay for the houses so they can demolish, why can that money not be put towards refurbishing those houses, its got to be a cheaper option than demolish and rebuild. Why destroy communities that have been there for many years.

bobthedj · 28-04-2005, 10:49

The Antley pub on Blackburn Road is on the list to be demolished and has been for years.
It was a change of use building, now a Muslim girls school. I have never seen anyone use the building, and not sure if it was intended to be used. Can a school be demolished? and/ or will the goverment have to pay to build a new school? is this a scam.

pendy · 28-04-2005, 12:24

Barricade yourself in, Mani. Refuse to move, and get all your neighbours to do the same. Ask for a Judicial Review of the plans - at least that would be a delaying tactic, if you didn't succeed. It is complete madness to knock down houses that people live in and love, when we are already short of housing stock.

If anyone wants to stage a protest at a Council meeting, let me know and I will come up for it.

park381 · 28-04-2005, 20:15

That's sound advice from Pendy, don't accept HBC's offer.Tell them you want to stay put in your own home. Same here with the protest at a council meeting.

mani · 29-04-2005, 12:54

the region i'm talkin of is steiner st portland st fredrick st - all that area is more likely to get KO'd and the whole monk st area etc

and their idea of regeneration on blackburn rd?

plant a few trees

WillowTheWhisp · 29-04-2005, 13:10

Trees? They don't expect people to live in trees do they?

Have they offered any alternative accommodation?

cashman · 29-04-2005, 13:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by entwisi

There is talk of Phoenix 2 which affects the other side of Blackburn road around the area that teh Grammer school used to be. I was wondering if it was this bit that Mani was talking about as I guessed that those affected by phase 1 would probably have known about it before now

my missus has just bin talking to a lady from across the road,who has lived there most of her life,and she learnt last night at the meeting her house is coming down in probably next 5 years,she was most upset near tears, so you are not alone mani.not that its any consolation.thats in the area your on about entwi.

WillowTheWhisp · 29-04-2005, 13:17

This is awful for people who have spent time and money on their property. It almost makes you understand why other people don't.

park381 · 29-04-2005, 13:57

So what happens to the people when the houses are knocked down, are they re-housed or left to fend for themselves

entwisi · 29-04-2005, 21:54

It will be compulsory purcahase, Heres 50%(if your lucky) of the value of you house now move along without a fuss there..

Oh, you can't afford anywhere to live, tough!

Do we have a full list of the streets involved? I have relatives in that area and up to now it was only thought to be an investigation. If things have been decided then I need to let people know.

Ian

WillowTheWhisp · 29-04-2005, 21:57

I have an elderly relative living down that way too. Where do you get information from about this?

Busman747 · 30-04-2005, 00:12

Over the past year, I have come to love the stone-build terrace houses in Accy. As I drive along Blackburn Road and see the more modern brick homes I almost cringe, they seem so out of place!

In most cases, the outside walls are good even though they are 100 years old and an investment of probably less than £30,000.00 on each would regenerate the houses for decades to come.

On the other hand, if someone with money was to gain them through compulsory purchase, demolish them and build "modern" houses, they could either sell them at premium prices (in excess of 6 figures) or rent them out to those that can afford them for "southern" prices as they will be "in a desirable area!"

In essence, what project Phoenix is doing is to take away the affordable housing available in Accy and replacing it with nondescript housing that is priced out of reach of the average worker in the area.

I presently live in Primrose Street, Accy. and at some point in the past, H.B.C. spent a lot of money rebuilding exterior walls/railings and cleaning stonework and it is a pleasure to drive into my street now even though the houses are close to the age of houses earmarked for demolition just down the road.............

Perhaps one of the problems stems from the fact that H.B.C. have always been unable to control the lack of interest from landlords who "unofficially" rent out their premises without regard for the law of the land. There are many safeguards in place, but in Accy, action is seldom taken, therefore properties deteriorate..........

What Accy needs is "guts leadership!"

1) Invest money into every house in ****** street,

2) Put pressure on landlords to maintain their houses to a reasonable condition,

3) If a "tenant" fails to look after the property he/she is in, pressurise the landlord to kick them out, give the landlord financial backing to do this!

4) If a landlord shows no interest, GET A COMPULSORY PURCHASE ORDER! and be able to buy out the landlord (at present compulsory purchace prices)

5) Make it illegal to privately arrange a tenants agreement...........go through the legal requirements...or don't rent!

Accy could be good again, but it needs councillors that are prepared to force home the legal requirements of home owning and to kick out those who regard Accy as an "easy target"

Spend 2 years getting rid of the "undesirables" and relish in the admiration of the true Acciers!!!!!!

You want my vote, and countless others, Thats THE WAY TO GET IT!

chav1 · 30-04-2005, 03:19

is there absolutely nothing a person can do if the council decide they want to force you out of your home that you own..?

our army is constantly been sent abroad to stop other governments from forcing people out of their homes etc

seem to me to be a breech of a persons human rights i dont understand how it can be legal for this to happen in a democratic society

entwisi · 30-04-2005, 06:25

It is perfectly legal Chav.

Busman, it is teh landlords responsibility as I understand it to maintain teh property. That is why you pay rent. Its liek a tele, if you rent it and it breaks they fix or replace it.

Ian

park381 · 30-04-2005, 06:41

It's all down to Central Gov, they determine what the grants are to be used for, and in this case its demolish and rebuild, if they decided the grants were for the refurbishment of property then thats what it would be.