Ed Miliband

[gynn]

After a year as Labour leader, what are everyone's views on Ed Miliband's performance as Labour leader?

No doubt Mancie sees him as the potential saviour of the country, rescuing us all from a fate worse than another term of Tory rule. And jaysay will say he is just as bad as his predecessor, plotting to plunge us all into another decade of doom and gloom.

As a neutral, I have to say that he worries me. He reminds me of that boy with the lisp in the corner of the playground who struggled to make friends. He found it hard to live in the shadow of his handsome brother, who always had loads of girl friends, and he turned out to be the one who told teacher he saw us smoking behind the bike sheds. The class sneak.

Am I being unfair?

[cashman]

Think as n ex-public schoolboy,like em all,hes a very poor excuse fer a socialist. its that simple.

[Taggy]

I'm a Labour supporter, but have to say his performance is dire!..He just looks like a little office boy way out of his depth! Any decent leader would have been able to rip Cameron & Osborne apart after the pathetic leadership they have shown...but this just highlights how weak Milliband is! He is still behind Cameron in Popularity despite the fact that its clear that Cameron is just a mouth piece and Google Page Ranking Man and does not know the detail of any of his parties policies! Milliband is only leader because there's no obvious alternative now...well now that the Unions got rid of his brother!

Best Regards - Taggy

[accyman]

As long as hes in charge i wont vote labor infact putting Gordon back in charge would increase their chances of winning an election.

i said increase not win by the way

In the past i have refused to abstain from voting or spoil my vote and have always thought of a reason why i should vote for at least one candidate but with the current options i cant for the life of me think of one good reason why either of them deserve my vote.

Even voting for him to get Cameron out isnt an option because i dread to think what he would do if given power .

[accyman]

continuation :


Even local politics has shown me even at low level how nothing is different.Up until may the forums were awash with Labour councilors fighting the good fight for us and pointing out the evil ways of the Conservative's then as soon as one of their new policies or should i say an old policy is pushed through on a second attempt targeting sick ,disabled and infirm not a damn single one of them spoke up on behalf of those effected on here but did find time to comment on a few loose or missing grates.

Fool us once shame on you

Fool us twice shame on us

Jesus i miss Lord Slutch because in todays politics he would be the only one with any credability

[Taggy]

Yes i also once thought..well actually it was once the case that Labour was the party who helped the most vulnerable in society, but i know thats no longer true from the lack of response from Milliband to what Cameron & IDS is doing to the poorest in Society!

The Banks now control Society...not the Government!..That could actually be stopped but no party has the balls to do it!


Best Regards - Taggy

[accyman]

labor hasnt been about the people since Michael Foot died.His death allowed Blair and his new labor lot to slip in.Gordon had the right ideals but was left with ruins after Blair screwed the country and legged it.

[Eric]

Originally Posted by gynn

After a year as Labour leader, what are everyone's views on Ed Miliband's performance as Labour leader?

No doubt Mancie sees him as the potential saviour of the country, rescuing us all from a fate worse than another term of Tory rule. And jaysay will say he is just as bad as his predecessor, plotting to plunge us all into another decade of doom and gloom.

As a neutral, I have to say that he worries me. He reminds me of that boy with the lisp in the corner of the playground who struggled to make friends. He found it hard to live in the shadow of his handsome brother, who always had loads of girl friends, and he turned out to be the one who told teacher he saw us smoking behind the bike sheds. The class sneak.

Am I being unfair?

Gliding effortlessly from a question about the performance of a politician to smoking behind the bike sheds seems more than a little wierd

However, as a neutral and a foreign observer, but one who does try to keep in touch with what is going on in British politics, Ed Miliband seems indistinguishable from a Canadian Liberal. There aren't enough right-wing votes to keep the tories in power; and there are not enough democratic socialist votes to elect Labour. For either one to gain and hold power, they must attract an increasing number of voters in the center. (The Lib-Dems seem more bent on commiting political suicide than contending for office.) And, your politicians, even more than ours, see gaining and holding power as much more important than governing the country.

Maybe it all stems from Thatcherism: destroy the working class, and you will destroy Labour. Although it seems the bitch didn't take into account "New Labour," a party which any Canadian Liberal would feel comfortable voting for.

[gynn]

Originally Posted by Eric

Gliding effortlessly from a question about the performance of a politician to smoking behind the bike sheds seems more than a little wierd

I was trying to be allegorical.

[garinda]

Who?

Can't be bothered Googling.

[Taggy]

Originally Posted by Eric

Gliding effortlessly from a question about the performance of a politician to smoking behind the bike sheds seems more than a little wierd

However, as a neutral and a foreign observer, but one who does try to keep in touch with what is going on in British politics, Ed Miliband seems indistinguishable from a Canadian Liberal. There aren't enough right-wing votes to keep the tories in power; and there are not enough democratic socialist votes to elect Labour. For either one to gain and hold power, they must attract an increasing number of voters in the center. (The Lib-Dems seem more bent on commiting political suicide than contending for office.) And, your politicians, even more than ours, see gaining and holding power as much more important than governing the country.

Maybe it all stems from Thatcherism: destroy the working class, and you will destroy Labour. Although it seems the bitch didn't take into account "New Labour," a party which any Canadian Liberal would feel comfortable voting for.

I think thats a pretty good summary Eric!

Best Regards - Taggy

[Wynonie Harris]

Seems a bit of a nonentity to me but, to be honest, I doubt there'll ever be a Labour leader who fits in with the views of Accyweb traditional Labour voters. There seems to be a yearning for a proper left wing socialist Labour leader like Michael Foot (the man who couldn't get Labour into power in a thousand years). If just such a leader was elected, it'd be interesting to see just how long it was before the howls of protest emerged on here from traditional Labour voters about the left wing socialist policies that were being implemented - ie, a liberal, inclusive attitude on immigration, an emphasis on rehabilitation rather than punishment for criminals, an embracing of politically correct attitudes (think Harriet Harman) and more. And if you think those aren't left wing Labour attitudes, I suggest you talk to any left wing socialist member of the Labour party. Socialism's about far more than just economic policies!

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by gynn

After a year as Labour leader, what are everyone's views on Ed Miliband's performance as Labour leader?

No doubt Mancie sees him as the potential saviour of the country, rescuing us all from a fate worse than another term of Tory rule. And jaysay will say he is just as bad as his predecessor, plotting to plunge us all into another decade of doom and gloom.

As a neutral, I have to say that he worries me. He reminds me of that boy with the lisp in the corner of the playground who struggled to make friends. He found it hard to live in the shadow of his handsome brother, who always had loads of girl friends, and he turned out to be the one who told teacher he saw us smoking behind the bike sheds. The class sneak.

Am I being unfair?

Well Mr ED certainly wasn't the choice of Labour rank and file, can't remember anybody voting for him on the Accy Web poll, I think in recent poll, a third of Labour voters said they thought he wouldn't make a good Prime Minister. and as for preempting what I'd say, well actually I don't give a toss really.

[mobertol]

Originally Posted by gynn

He reminds me of that boy with the lisp in the corner of the playground who struggled to make friends. He found it hard to live in the shadow of his handsome brother,

Am I being unfair?

Isn't the speech defect supposed to have been corrected by surgery on his sinuses? Doesn't seem to have worked.

I was devastated when David didn't get the job, being an "Ex" but then Ive always had a thing about Mr. Bean lookalikes.....

I don't think you're being unfair...

[DaveinGermany]

Originally Posted by gynn

what are everyone's views on Ed Miliband's performance as Labour leader?

Who ?

Insignificant, weak, if the man was any good as a leader he'd have been ripping the coalition to pieces by now. It's not as if he hasn't had enough openings with the coalitions continual internal bickering & backtracking on major issues. A half decent opposition leader would've easily turned these situations for his & his parties benefit.