EDL mayhem in Blackburn tomorrow

[Boeing Guy]

Just thought I would share this you tube video with you all, showing how peaceful and decent the EDL really are:

Just a thought

[Bagpuss]

Originally Posted by hedman2003

100% agree with you Jaysay - No doubt the mindless morons who support EDL will claim "I'm not a racist but" The only difference bwetween EDL and BND are one is a political party the other is not however their aims and objectives are the same

Yet another well researched post, FYI members of the BNP attempted to hijack todays demo but where quickly ejected by the police with help from EDL members. Hedman the aims and objectives of the two are not the same, people of all colours and races are encouraged to join, which believe it or not they have, you don't get that with the BNP. Today's demo was peaceful except for the far left activists that turned up, throwing fireworks, my information is they were involved after the demo in clashes with small gangs of local muslims who have no time for them.

[flashy]

There was an indian man on the news earlier who is part of the EDL, ignorance is proof of little knowledge in most people

[Bagpuss]

My mistake, the fireworks were thrown by members of the muslim youth.

[Bagpuss]

EDL MISSION STATEMENT


(1) HUMAN RIGHTS: Protecting And Promoting Human Rights

The English Defence League (EDL) is a human rights organisation that exists to protect the inalienable rights of all people to protest against radical Islam’s encroachment into the lives of non Muslims. It also recognises that Muslims themselves are frequently the main victims of some Islamic traditions and practices. The Government should ensure the individual human rights of members of the Muslim community to openly criticise Islamic orthodoxy, to challenge Islamic community leaders without fear of retribution, to receive full equality before the law (including equal rights for Muslim women), and to leave Islam if they see fit and to do so without fear or censure. Muslims have the right to demand reform of their religion to make it more relevant to the needs of the modern world, including the need to fully respect other groups in society without fear of retribution. It calls upon the Government to repeal legislation that prevents effective freedom of speech that is essential if the human rights abuses that sometimes manifest themselves around Islam are to be stopped.

The EDL believes that radical Islam has a stranglehold on British Muslims. It keeps them fearful and isolated, especially the women that it encases in the Burqa. It misrepresents their views, stifles freedom of expression, and radicalises their children, whilst continually doing a discredit to those who do wish to peacefully co-exist with their fellow Britons.


(2) DEMOCRACY AND THE RULE OF LAW: Promoting Democracy And The Rule Of Law By Opposing Sharia

The European Court of Human Rights has declared that “sharia is incompatible with the fundamental principles of democracy”. We have seen in recent years a great deal of accommodation with sharia norms based on the premise that sharia rules can be simply attached to our existing traditions and customs. In reality sharia is an alternative to our legal, political, and social systems. Encouragement of halal food, Islamic courts, and the demand to respect Islam are all aspects of sharia designed to undermine our established way of life on the road to the crystalisation of the full sharia alternative. Sharia law makes a fundamental distinction between Muslims and non-Muslims and the EDL will never allow this sort of iniquitous apartheid system to take root in our country. The EDL will therefore oppose sharia appeasement in all its forms.


(3) PUBLIC EDUCATION: Ensuring That The Public Get A Balanced Picture Of Islam

A central part of the EDL’s mission is public education. The British political and media establishment have, for a long time, being presenting a very sanitised and therefore inaccurate view of Islam shaped by the needs of policy makers rather than the needs of the public. This has acted as a barrier to informed policy making and made the solution of real problems impossible. In pursuing this self defeating and destructive policy, the Government has effectively been acting as the propaganda arm of the Muslim Brotherhood.

The EDL is committed to a campaign of public education to ensure that all aspects of Islam that impact on our society are brought into the open so that they can be debated in an open and honest way. It believes that only by looking at all the facts can society be most effectively and humanly governed. If there are aspects of Muslim tradition that encourage the activities of Islamic radicals and criminals then these need to be properly addressed without fear of accusations of racism or xenophobia. The public must have a more balanced and less sanitised view of Islam that allows it to ensure that decision makers are held to account for their policy making choices, choices that affect the harmony and security of the nation.

The EDL promotes the understanding of Islam and the implications for non Muslims forced to live alongside it. Islam is not just a religious system but a political and social ideology that seeks to dominate all non-believers and impose a harsh legal system that and rejects the democratic process. It runs counter to all that we hold dear within our British liberal, democracy.


(4) RESPECTING TRADITION: Promoting The Traditions And Culture Of England While At The Same Time Being Open To Embrace The Best That Other Cultures Can Offer

The EDL believes that English Culture has the right to exist and prosper in England. It recognises that culture is not static and that over time natural change takes place and other cultures make contributions that make our culture stronger and more vibrant. However, this does not give license to policy makers to deliberately undermine our culture and impose non-English cultures on the English people in their own land. If people migrate to this country then they should be expected to respect our culture, its laws, and traditions and not expect their own cultures to be promoted by agencies of the state. The best of their cultures will be absorbed naturally and we will all be united by the enhanced culture that results.

The EDL is therefore keen to draw its support from all races, all faiths, all political and lifestyle persuasions. Under its umbrella all people in England, whatever their background, or origin can stand united in a desire to stop the imposition of the rules of Islam on non believers. In order to ensure the continuity of our culture and its institutions, the EDL stands opposed to the creeping Islamisation of our country because that presents itself as an undemocratic alternative to our cherished way of life.

Our armed forces stand up and risk their lives every day in order to protect our culture and democratic way of life. They, also, are inclusive of all England’s diversity and are a shining example of what a people can achieve in unity. The EDL is therefore committed to opposing any and all abuse that our men and women in uniform are subjected to and will campaign for legal remedies to ensure that those working within these important institutions are not exposed to abuse or aggression from within our country.

(5) INTERNATIONAL OUTLOOK: Working In Solidarity With Others Around The World

The EDL is keen to join with others who share its values, wherever they are in the world, and from whatever cultural background they derive. It believes that the demand for sharia is global and therefore needs to tackled at a global as well as national level this demand is never realised. The EDL will therefore have an international outlook to enhance and strengthen its domestic efforts.

[Eric]

Originally Posted by flashy

So we should just forget 9/11 and 7/7 should we?

Good point, hon.

[heth]

Pint glasses thrown, punches exchanged, one man knocked unconscious and 12 arrest's...............

Shaming the St George's Cross: Vile EDL thugs in 2,000-strong hate protest wear flag-coloured burkas to confront Muslims | Mail Online

[flashy]

But what about the muslims who also got arrested? It was on the news, narrow mindedness isn't becoming

[accyman]

Originally Posted by heth

Pint glasses thrown, punches exchanged, one man knocked unconscious and 12 arrest's...............

not too long ago that could have been any weekend night at most pubs on a saturday night lol.

also for every youtube clip showing edl members or people claiming to be edl starting trouble or acting badly there are plenty showing muslims instigating trouble.Lots of noise calling edl thugs and racists yet no so much noise when it comes to the muslims been the ones acting violently or starting the trouble.

just an observation im not a member of the edl or have anything to do with them but news regarding racial or culture issues seems to get shouted about more when its whites that can be shown as doing bad but not so loud when its muslims doing it.Maybe because when you call a white somthing it isnt racial abuse i dont know.

a group of muslims spit at our troops and burn poppies and it kicks up a bit of fuss.1 nutty preecher says hes going to burn the koran and its a world wide issue with threats of retaliation and reaches such a media frenzy obama and other world leaders have to stick their oar in and make an even bigger fuss that it needs to be

a newspaper prints a picture of mohhamhead and riots break out world wide and threats on the reporters life are made

saldam rhusdie writes a book criticizing islam or somthing and he has to live in hiding for the rest of his life as there is still to this day a demand for his death.

mind you upsetting folowers of islam can be a good thing for some i guess because they got to buy all them flags they like to burn somewhere so somones making a fortune when they kick off

[heth]

Originally Posted by accyman

just an observation im not a member of the edl or have anything to do with them

I am the same as you, the thing that I dont understand is why the violence?
Thats why I put the link on and said what I did.

[Bagpuss]

Originally Posted by heth

I am the same as you, the thing that I dont understand is why the violence?
Thats why I put the link on and said what I did.

As I said in an earlier post " FYI members of the BNP attempted to hijack todays demo but where quickly ejected by the police with help from EDL members", once this had happened it went ahead peacefully except for the muslims throwing fireworks, no mention of that in the report, I wonder why?

[Bagpuss]

Originally Posted by flashy

But what about the muslims who also got arrested? It was on the news, narrow mindedness isn't becoming

Sigh, it's going to be a hard fight.

[voiceofreason]

Originally Posted by Boeing Guy

Just thought I would share this you tube video with you all, showing how peaceful and decent the EDL really are:

Just a thought

Its lucky they picked the most intelligent one there- imagine if they had chosen one of the remoulds to interview!

Jaysay - you speak total sense sir.

[SamF]

Originally Posted by voiceofreason

Its lucky they picked the most intelligent one there- imagine if they had chosen one of the remoulds to interview!

Jaysay - you speak total sense sir.

[flashy]

Originally Posted by Bagpuss

Sigh, it's going to be a hard fight.

there's a lot of ignorant people about who like to either plead ignorance or bury their heads in the sand Mark, i wouldn't bother wasting your energy on any of them, you need to be smart to understand what you're trying to say and obviously none of them are