Election

[Margaret Pilkington]

Can understand that.....I wouldn't cry over John Bercow, or Tony Blair, or John Major....or Michael Heseltine....I could add more, but I think the universe has enough to deal with just now.

[cashman]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

Can understand that.....I wouldn't cry over John Bercow, or Tony Blair, or John Major....or Michael Heseltine....I could add more, but I think the universe has enough to deal with just now.

i agree entirely, though my main beef is with the party i have supported all my life, for them to turn on their own constituents is beyond the pail to me.

[Margaret Pilkington]

Many Life long Labour supporters feel that pain.
I have always been a 'floating voter' but my daughter is a fully paid up member of the Labour Party, but she gritted her teeth and voted against the party this time.
She says that she will never ever vote for Labour again....she feels utterly betrayed by the party....and has cancelled her membership.
It is not something shenis comfortable with, but she said it had to be done.

[cashman]

Have to say i agree with her Margaret, all these that have joined under the Momentum banner to me have completely destroyed the party, also made corbyn even stupider than he was imho.

[Margaret Pilkington]

These ultra left loonies should have started up their own party instead of invading the Labour Party.
Cuckoos in the nest.

[cashman]

TRUE but the support i'm sure went to CORBYNS head,

[Margaret Pilkington]

Well, they aren't supporting him now.
He has been lambasted by the ex-MPs who were in Westminster to clear their offices.
The whole party needs to be demolished and rebuilt so that it reflects the core voters, and has credible costed manifesto's rather than a billionaire wish list.

Labour will be in the political wilderness for a long time especially if BJ gets us out of the EU with what is looking increasingly like aclean break....well that is unless the EU capitulates.
They know that with a majority and a law which prevent further extensions, they will lose out if they do not get their act together.

[Jimmy Clitheroe]

Though I am saddened by the lack of a credible opposition and angered by those responsible for destroying that opposition I think we just need to leave them to their squalid recriminations and let the government we elected get on with the job.

[accybeme]

I don’t understand Sturgeons position, if I understand it, she wants to leave the UK join the EU but also keep the £ am I missing something or is she ?

[Margaret Pilkington]

She cannot see the irony of leaving the UK 'prison' as she called it, to then shackle Scotland to the toxic EU.

[Exile on Spencer St]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

She cannot see the irony of leaving the UK 'prison' as she called it, to then shackle Scotland to the toxic EU.

As long as someone else picks up the tab, she’s nae that bothered.

[Margaret Pilkington]

Spot on there.
If they get their independence(which seems unlikely) the i hope the Barnett formula is removed forthwith...let's see how long they last on Salmon and whisky exports.

[accybeme]

when the UK leaves the EU Scotland would then have to apply to join the EU and as a new member Scotland would have to adopt the euro and become part of Schengen,

[Margaret Pilkington]

No, of...wee Burnley wants to keep Sterling....and thinks that those in Brussels will give her what she wants...we all know where that path leads.

[monkey hanger]

Originally Posted by Exile on Spencer St

As long as someone else picks up the tab, she’s nae that bothered.

at least we will not be picking it up then. how much do they get from westminster anyway.