Election

KiTChener · 13-12-2019, 02:52

Hyndburn
Conservative gain!
Well done Sara
Good riddance Graham!
Should’ve gone with the 66% !

Margaret Pilkington · 13-12-2019, 07:16

I second that.
It has made my morning....knowing that we have a new person to represent the people of the borough.
I am sure that it will take very little effort to be 200% better than our last representative.
Well Done Sara

Margaret Pilkington · 13-12-2019, 07:55

Jeremy Corbyn gone too.
He said he was Marmite....well, that can't be right....some people LIKE marmite.
Anna Soubry gone, the irritating Jo Swinson.....I have not had time to check out others.....except Chukka....he's been chucked....but says he will stay a Lib Dem(fool).

taddy · 13-12-2019, 10:16

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

Jeremy Corbyn gone too.
He said he was Marmite....well, that can't be right....some people LIKE marmite.
Anna Soubry gone, the irritating Jo Swinson.....I have not had time to check out others.....except Chukka....he's been chucked....but says he will stay a Lib Dem(fool).

The little bearded communist can now go and sit in his allotment along with the other bearded little Gnomes and spout his communist claptrap too to his vegetables.

Exile on Spencer St · 13-12-2019, 10:22

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Originally Posted by taddy

The little bearded communist can now go and sit in his allotment along with the other bearded little Gnomes and spout his communist claptrap too to his vegetables.

Trouble is, his metropolitan vegetables are still running the Labour Party.

Margaret Pilkington · 13-12-2019, 10:35

Yes they are...but maybe they will see that the current make up of the party is unpalatable and not to the taste of the electorate.
Changing the leader will not make the Labour Party any more electable unless they change their Marxist ideologies....and again appeal to the traditional Labour voter.

monkey hanger · 13-12-2019, 11:36

[QUOTE=Margaret Pilkington;1234418]
Anna Soubry gone, the irritating Jo Swinson.....

actually getting rid of those two is as good as the result.

Jimmy Clitheroe · 13-12-2019, 11:57

The problem is it isn't ALL Tory GOOD - ALL Labour BAD... it's pretty much ALL politicians BAD just some are ever so slightly less bad. I don't expect the tories to do anything for the ordinary working man (oops sorry I meant to say extraordinary ever so special employed/non-employed multi-binary/self identifying gender carbon neutral 'who's a little QT+ then' "individual"). Labour has to find new more earnest folk who need to get out and about more to Hexham and Wrexham and Grimsby and Derby instead of formulating policy in Islington coffee bars and their Auvergne getaway gites. The rumour is they are considering the Mancunian Foghorn Angela Rayner as the next leader BIG mistake have they learnt NOTHING from this humiliating defeat ?

taddy · 13-12-2019, 12:03

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Originally Posted by Jimmy Clitheroe

The problem is it isn't ALL Tory GOOD - ALL Labour BAD... it's pretty much ALL politicians BAD just some are ever so slightly less bad. I don't expect the tories to do anything for the ordinary working man (oops sorry I meant to say extraordinary ever so special employed/non-employed multi-binary/self identifying gender carbon neutral 'who's a little QT+ then' "individual"). Labour has to find new more earnest folk who need to get out and about more to Hexham and Wrexham and Grimsby and Derby instead of formulating policy in Islington coffee bars and their Auvergne getaway gites. The rumour is they are considering the Mancunian Foghorn Angela Rayner BIG mistake have they learnt NOTHING from this humiliating defeat ?

Sorry but I never was any good at Conundrums, (If that is the way it is spelt).

accybeme · 13-12-2019, 12:10

Most of us did predict that labour would pay the price for betraying the referendum vote, it’s about time these MP’s represented the views of their constituency and not their own personal agenda

Margaret Pilkington · 13-12-2019, 12:37

Jimmy, to learn something you have to accept that there is a gap in your knowledge...or that you have got something very fundamental, wrong.
So they are not going to learn because there is no acceptance that the problem exists in the Labour Party because it no longer represents the people it was formed to promote, protect and serve.

Jeremy Corbyn has said that the poor Labour performance was all down to Brexit(and yes, to a large degree it was a part of it) he does not accept that anything he said or did was to blame.
The fact that after the referendum, ALL parties promised that this would be delivered....but there were MP's(in all parties) who thought that we poor uneducated bunch did not know what the consequences of our vote would be.
They thought (arrogantly) that they knew better than those they are supposed to serve.
There lies the problem.
Our own MP was scathing about us being given the opportunity to decide the direction the country should pursue...he disagreed and did much to thwart the process....he did nothing much for the borough anyway.
If he wrote his achievements on the back of a stamp, he would still have room for the works of Shakespeare....so we are well rid of him....and he won't starve...he could always go back to ppie crimping.

MoreJoe · 13-12-2019, 13:25

Here are the views of the pundits in the United States.
Many see the British election results not so much as a win for the Conservatives and Boris but more as a rejection of Socialism across the board.
They may be correct or it may be wishful thinking given the state of U.S. politics.
Opinions?

Exile on Spencer St · 13-12-2019, 13:37

Don’t disagree with much of this view.

https://www.spiked-online.com/2019/1...-of-democracy/

It wasn’t a rejection of socialism over capitalism; it was a rejection of the lying, two-faced, political and media classes in both the U.K. and the EU that believe they can perpetually hoodwink the British public.

accybeme · 13-12-2019, 14:15

just been listening to jo Swinton on sky news, sounded like she still believes that her opinion is more important than that of us mere mortals

Margaret Pilkington · 13-12-2019, 14:44

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Originally Posted by MoreJoe

Here are the views of the pundits in the United States.
Many see the British election results not so much as a win for the Conservatives and Boris but more as a rejection of Socialism across the board.
They may be correct or it may be wishful thinking given the state of U.S. politics.
Opinions?

I think it was a rejection of the people who felt the electorate were disposable.
That the thoughts, opinions, values of the electorate do not matter.
That democracy could be discarded without consequences....because it was democracy that was sacrificed by MP's of ALL parties.

There could not be a rejection of socialism as there WAS NO SOCIALISM on offer.
The current Labour Party no longer reflects the values of the working man....and not only that, the way the party was led was appalling...it wasn't led in any true sense of the word.

Now, there is a little more stability...not sure how long this will last as I am sure that when Brexit business re-opens, the EU are going to be as mad as a wet hen in a thunderstorm and they are going to look for ways to extract the pish from the UK.

Who knows what arch remainers might do now they have more time to get in cahoots with the EU mandarins.
That might make me sound paranoid, but I cannot believe that the likes of Dominic Grieve and David Gaulke (who both lost their seats) will let it lie.
So it is not over until it is over.