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23-05-2010, 12:19
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Re: Encouraging new blood at H.B.C.
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Originally Posted by Ken Moss
Crikey Gary, where do I start?
Sorry Ken , I don't want to pile on your excellent work , but sometime perhaps you could inform us of the non-elected officials of the Council- their official names and roles.
It would seem sense to me if such an official could be responsible for setting dates and times for meetings.It might prevent the present skulduggery . Thanks.
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Dates and times of meetings in the past have not generally been a contentious area.The dates were set well in advance, which is helpful to some members who might have to rearrange things.
It's only recently that problems have arisen.We need to get back to a position as a Council in my opinion, where dates and times of meetings are set at a time which is convenient to most members, irrespective of party.
There's a feeling at the moment amongst some members, rightly or wrongly that meetings are being deliberately set at a time that prevents some members from attending meetings.
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23-05-2010, 12:24
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Re: Encouraging new blood at H.B.C.
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Originally Posted by Ken Moss
I hope not! Take a look, Derek. I try to keep it as non-political as I can because the electorate usually find that an instant turn off.
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No doubt we will drag this thread back up from time to time to see what's cooking Ken, and make sure you ain't burning the main course
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23-05-2010, 12:25
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Re: Encouraging new blood at H.B.C.
[QUOTE=Bernard Dawson;817010]
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Originally Posted by JCB
There's a feeling at the moment amongst some members, rightly or wrongly that meetings are being deliberately set at a time that prevents some members from attending meetings.
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thats a true diplomat speaking, my view is its been done deliberatly fer someones own selfish ends, how any saddo can justify this, speaks volumes.
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23-05-2010, 12:27
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Re: Encouraging new blood at H.B.C.
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Originally Posted by garinda
One of mine was thanked on here yesterday.
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Duly noted and no doubt appreciated in the correct circles But hay isn't that what being a local councillor is all about and why these councillors are rewarded on election day
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04-07-2010, 11:18
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Re: Encouraging new blood at H.B.C.
Well, we're just about two months in now and the actual mechanics of being a councillor are giving me no end of satisfaction. What advice would I give to anyone wanting to try it? Where do I begin...
Getting phone calls and e-mails on a daily basis from residents in need of assistance and being able to sort them out within days is a priceless feeling. Several issues which have been going on for months and years are now well on the way to being resolved after a bit of digging and nagging and, although the money isn't brilliant, it gives me a tremendous sense of satisfaction knowing that you can make a difference without gargantuan effort.
Persistence is the key on certain issues, but anyone who tries throwing their weight around with HBC staff is asking for all they get. Local councillors are the on lowest political rung and it would pay for some members to bear that in mind if they want to get things done more quickly.
Be seen in public in your ward is essential, no one likes a faceless councillor who only pops up when it's time to grab votes. Go to the pubs and community group meetings, listen to residents, be prompt with your responses, don't give out false hopes or take credit for something you were only a part of.
It's all very simple stuff although hard work, but conversely it would actually be very easy for an elected councillor to do absolutely nothing if they wanted.
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04-07-2010, 11:25
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Re: Encouraging new blood at H.B.C.
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Originally Posted by Ken Moss
Well, we're just about two months in now and the actual mechanics of being a councillor are giving me no end of satisfaction. What advice would I give to anyone wanting to try it? Where do I begin...
Getting phone calls and e-mails on a daily basis from residents in need of assistance and being able to sort them out within days is a priceless feeling. Several issues which have been going on for months and years are now well on the way to being resolved after a bit of digging and nagging and, although the money isn't brilliant, it gives me a tremendous sense of satisfaction knowing that you can make a difference without gargantuan effort.
Persistence is the key on certain issues, but anyone who tries throwing their weight around with HBC staff is asking for all they get. Local councillors are the on lowest political rung and it would pay for some members to bear that in mind if they want to get things done more quickly.
Be seen in public in your ward is essential, no one likes a faceless councillor who only pops up when it's time to grab votes. Go to the pubs and community group meetings, listen to residents, be prompt with your responses, don't give out false hopes or take credit for something you were only a part of.
It's all very simple stuff although hard work, but conversely it would actually be very easy for an elected councillor to do absolutely nothing if they wanted.
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It's heartening to hear that your hard work is already making a difference.
That must be satisfying.
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04-07-2010, 20:07
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Re: Encouraging new blood at H.B.C.
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It's heartening to hear that your hard work is already making a difference.
That must be satisfying.
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Indeed it must.
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08-07-2010, 21:12
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Re: Encouraging new blood at H.B.C.
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It's heartening to hear that your hard work is already making a difference.
That must be satisfying.
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Yup .... especially the bit about going to the pubs
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09-07-2010, 09:34
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Re: Encouraging new blood at H.B.C.
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Yup .... especially the bit about going to the pubs
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I prefer to call any surgeries held in pubs 'business meetings'.
The wife is totally convinced by that when I roll in at midnight.
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09-07-2010, 10:02
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Re: Encouraging new blood at H.B.C.
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I prefer to call any surgeries held in pubs 'business meetings'.
The wife is totally convinced by that when I roll in at midnight.
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You smooth talking barsteward you
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09-07-2010, 18:43
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Re: Encouraging new blood at H.B.C.
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I prefer to call any surgeries held in pubs 'business meetings'.
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If you can get away with it fella !! All the best to you, some blokes eh ? get away with all sorts
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09-07-2010, 18:51
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Re: Encouraging new blood at H.B.C.
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If you can get away with it fella !! All the best to you, some blokes eh ? get away with all sorts
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Trouble is Dave having met Ken I think he's one of those guys that blush when they tell porkies
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09-07-2010, 19:15
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Re: Encouraging new blood at H.B.C.
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Trouble is Dave having met Ken I think he's one of those guys that blush when they tell porkies
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Oh dear ! Not a good trait in a Politician that, it'll be his undoing
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09-07-2010, 19:16
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Re: Encouraging new blood at H.B.C.
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Oh dear ! Not a good trait in a Politician that, it'll be his undoing
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Twas mine
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09-07-2010, 19:23
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Re: Encouraging new blood at H.B.C.
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I prefer to call any surgeries held in pubs 'business meetings'.
The wife is totally convinced by that when I roll in at midnight.
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Fine; but forgive me if I don't believe the bit about her being totally convinced
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