Envy

[DtheP47]

Originally Posted by MargaretR

I am feeling a bit philosophical this evening.

I want your views on 'envy'. Twice recently I have been told 'I envy you' when discussing my accommodation. I feel very uncomfortable on hearing it. I think they were trying to congratulate me, but 'envy' is not an emotion I have experienced and I cannot appreciate why some people do.

If you think I am just polishing my halo, I don't mind you saying so -

Maybe a better turn of phrase Margaret would have been to say in that instance "they are pleased for you"
I think that has a far more positive meaning.
Envy certainly should be seen as a negative in the majority of cases.

[Eric]

Originally Posted by DtheP47

Maybe a better turn of phrase Margaret would have been to say in that instance "they are pleased for you"
I think that has a far more positive meaning.
Envy certainly should be seen as a negative in the majority of cases.

That would have been better ... altho' "envy" is in common use, it does smack of "covet", which, as Kevin would inform us if he were around, is a no-no ... especially when it comes to my neighbour's dishy wife ... not to mention his '73 Caprice convertible.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by MargaretR

I have just completed 5 days at 30mg per day.
It is reassuring to know that it wasn't a maximum dose.

I might try a low level 'maintenance' dose for a few days more if I feel the need today.

Knowing what you take gives me that confidence - after all you are surviving it

The thing is I wouldn't survive without Margaret, I'm now classed as steroid dependent and have been for many years. The body creates its own steroids but some people don't produce enough, sadly I'm in that category

[Eric]

Originally Posted by jaysay

The thing is I wouldn't survive without Margaret

Pray tell us more ... hadn't realized you two were that close

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Eric

Pray tell us more ... hadn't realized you two were that close

out of context Eric

[Gordon Booth]

Originally Posted by jaysay

out of context Eric

I'll bet MargaretR is pleased to know that!

[Margaret Pilkington]

Originally Posted by jaysay

out of context Eric

John, it was out of context, but it created a very...shall we say...interesting mental picture for me...and it made me smile. (and I hope you will both see that as a good thing...no malice whatsoever intended).

[MargaretR]

I hope this isn't regarded as thread wandering - the mental state I was in when I started it was due to medication.

I now add -

These steroids are bad news !
Last night, 30 hours after my last 30mg dose I started withdrawl symptoms (body aching, dizziness and mild nausea), took a reduced dose of 10mg, went to bed and slept from 7pm til 2am.
My nightime websearching reveals that, even after a short 5 day spell of high dosage, I will need to 'taper' off them

How to Taper the Dosage of Prednisone | eHow

[Barrie Yates]

Originally Posted by MargaretR

I hope this isn't regarded as thread wandering - the mental state I was in when I started it was due to medication.

I now add -

These steroids are bad news !
Last night, 30 hours after my last 30mg dose I started withdrawl symptoms (body aching, dizziness and mild nausea), took a reduced dose of 10mg, went to bed and slept from 7pm til 2am.
My nightime websearching reveals that, even after a short 5 day spell of high dosage, I will need to 'taper' off them

How to Taper the Dosage of Prednisone | eHow

Must disagree most strongly with this - I was put put on Prednisone some 8 weeks or so ago when suffering from Polymialgia - heavy first dose of 60mg did not agree but when dosage was split to 30mg morning and night everything was fine and the joint pains had cleared up completely within 48 hours, reduced dosage to 20mg and then 10mg, at all times no side effects on the reduced dosage and now on 7.5 mg twice a day, which will continue until end of December. Prednisone has worked fantastically well for me.
You should not rubbish a medication in general just because it does not agree with you.
The only complaint I have is that now I cannot participate in any competitive sports - I wish

[Less]

It's not addictive at all, I've been taking it every day for the last 35 years, I can give up anytime I wish, but I'll fight anyone that says I should do.

[Margaret Pilkington]

We are all unique individuals and there are many medications that may have wonderfully liberating effects for some people.....but it still has to be recognised that one size doesn't fit all.
My daughter has required intermittent use of steroids to combat side effects of medication she is taking.....she has a terrible time when she is on them.....cannot sleep, sometimes feels high(but not pleasantly so) and can have hallucinations.
So Barrie, I am glad your experience has been so positive, but not everyone is affected in such a positive way.

[susie123]

Originally Posted by MargaretR

These steroids are bad news !
Last night, 30 hours after my last 30mg dose I started withdrawl symptoms (body aching, dizziness and mild nausea), took a reduced dose of 10mg, went to bed and slept from 7pm til 2am.
My nightime websearching reveals that, even after a short 5 day spell of high dosage, I will need to 'taper' off them

How to Taper the Dosage of Prednisone | eHow

It's important when coming off steroids to taper the dose and not try the cold turkey approach. This is stressed most strongly in the product information leaflet for patients.

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

We are all unique individuals and there are many medications that may have wonderfully liberating effects for some people.....but it still has to be recognised that one size doesn't fit all.
My daughter has required intermittent use of steroids to combat side effects of medication she is taking.....she has a terrible time when she is on them.....cannot sleep, sometimes feels high(but not pleasantly so) and can have hallucinations.
So Barrie, I am glad your experience has been so positive, not everyone is affected in such a positive way.

I have had exactly the same experiences as Nicola, Margaret, but I have to say I rather enjoyed the highs. Most people don't, I think but then I always thought I was a bit odd...

[Barrie Yates]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

but not everyone is affected in such a positive way.

Exactly what I am saying - one should not say that any medication is bad news just because it does not suit that one individual.

[Margaret Pilkington]

Barrie...I didn't read it that way.......you said you 'disagreed most strongly', because you had had good effects.....my point was, that many people do not have the same results and will get the nasty side effects...but that isn't to say that these drugs should not be tried to see what results individuals have with them....and in some situations there really is no alternative other than to put up with the side effects or suffer the unwanted consequences of vital medication.

With the long term use of steroids there is also the possibilty of steroid induced diabetes(because it is a gluco-corticoid), and osteoporosis....these drugs can also mask the presence of infection in the body.

So yes, they are useful, but they have their 'downsides'.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by MargaretR

I hope this isn't regarded as thread wandering - the mental state I was in when I started it was due to medication.

I now add -

These steroids are bad news !
Last night, 30 hours after my last 30mg dose I started withdrawl symptoms (body aching, dizziness and mild nausea), took a reduced dose of 10mg, went to bed and slept from 7pm til 2am.
My nightime websearching reveals that, even after a short 5 day spell of high dosage, I will need to 'taper' off them

How to Taper the Dosage of Prednisone | eHow

Never go cold Turkey on steroids Margaret, if I were to come of steroids altogether it would take me 6 months, and using 1mg tabs to a great extent dropping 1mg a day, sadly that will never happen now My maintenance dose is now 15mg a day it was 5mg until my last stay in the Royal