Equal rights - but only when it suits?

ShortStuff · 24-07-2004, 12:53

I was totally shocked when I read in one of my weekly womans mags the following story: (basic details) A married woman had an affair with a bloke, left her husband and married her lover. A few years down the line she was totally convinced that her new husband was playing away, and although she did have some points that would have caused concern, I didn't believe she had any solid proof. Anyway, one night after they'd been to the local for a couple of drinks, they were getting undressed and the woman just when crazy -

"Arms flailing, she slapped and scratched, clawing at his skin. He tried to defend himself, but she lunged, crunched her teeth onto his left ear. Then, scrabbling down his body, she clamped her teeth round his testicles - and chomped. She was in a frenzy, all control gone."

"His injuries - 12 stitches in his scrotum, eight in his ear, his neck and thigh covered in scratches..."

"The court heard how she had 'found out the victim was seeing another woman...what happened really was a crime of passion'. The judge was lenient. He gave her a one-year conditional discharge, told to pay the victim £200 compensation."

I think her punishment was totally laughable - if he had mutilated her like this he would be spending a good few years behind bars, and I suspect she would have received much more compensation. The article goes on to say that she feels he has been taught a lesson and will think twice before cheating on someone again - but she had an affair with him behind her 1st husband's back - does this mean he has the right to attack her, afterall, it would be classed as a "crime of passion"?

So back to my first question - do us girls what equal rights but only when it suits???

Busman747 · 24-07-2004, 13:21

The law as it stands is laughable. Depending on the subject, it is weighted towards one sex or the other. One of the main problems stem from doddery old judges that can only vaguely remember their own names and are incapable of listening to both sides of a story as they have their own preferences before the courts are conveaned.
Many years ago, I fought for custody of my children. A social worker said that my wife was incapable of looking after my children properly HOWEVER CHILDREN SHOULD ALWAYS BE WITH THEIR MOTHER. The judge took her advice and I lost my case!
Things are gradually changing for the better though and harsh judgements are beginning to catch the newspapers attention.
Consider the recent case of a judge that had child pornography on his pc, He said it was for "research" and got away without a jail sentence......andwas allowed to retire early on his judges pension!!!

Doug · 24-07-2004, 14:33

“She clamped her teeth round his testicles - and chomped. She was in frenzy, all control gone."………….I should be so lucky.

There is a moral here, “it take’s to tango and those who throw stones shouldn’t live in glass houses”.

Thank you Shortstuff, I know you are making a serious point, but I needed that………………...

Caz · 24-07-2004, 15:52

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Shortstuff, I think your one of those rare young ladies who can see beyond the narrow minded attitudes of your gender, and that makes you special

Cheers Doug!
nice to know you think most of the female sex are narrow minded!

Doug · 24-07-2004, 16:05

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Originally Posted by cazzer

Cheers Doug!
nice to know you think most of the female sex are narrow minded!

Not at all Cazzer, For those of you that feel affronted by the term “narrow minded attitudes of your gender” I can only offer you my apologies. I don’t mean as a personal slant against any individual personally.

ShortStuff · 24-07-2004, 18:30

Just had another instalment of the weekly's and another example of this injustice is in it. A woman stabbed her fella to death after years of physically abusing him - and she got 3 1/2 years! She'll probably be out in two. If it was a fella, he probably would have got at least double the sentence.

Doug · 24-07-2004, 18:38

Shortstuff, Why does this kind of injustice interest you so, if you where to do yours in for playing around, surly you would be grateful to get off easy. Or am I just being a chauvinist.

ShortStuff · 24-07-2004, 18:48

I do not agree with any kind of injustice - imagine if it was you, your dad, your brother or son that had been treated this way. It would make you just as angry/upset as if it happened to a female member of the family.

What upsets me more - especially the first story - is that the magazine doesn't even pick up on the injustice, and actually makes a joke of it - the headline on the front was " 'Ball Breaker' - I bite off his testicle because he pestered me for sex!" Which, was nothing like the actual story.

Doug · 24-07-2004, 19:01

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Originally Posted by ShortStuff

I do not agree with any kind of injustice - imagine if it was you, that had been treated this way

To a degree it was, but I was expected to take it like a man. I lost my home, and contact we my first son. (Who is now 21) and I actually won the case......

Forgive me, I don't mean to belittle the situation or take the p***, I really believe that you should be complimented on your beliefs.

"Before anyone else gets excited I'm not attempting to Flirt with the girl" (just in case)....lol.

It's not that often that I "personally" come across people of your age that stand out purely on the standard of their values. Good on you shortstuff. Don’t forget I owe you a couple of jars on Sat.

lettie · 25-07-2004, 07:13

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Originally Posted by Doug

For those of you that feel affronted by the term “narrow minded attitudes of your gender” I can only offer you my apologies. I don’t mean as a personal slant against any individual personally.

The term 'narrow minded attitudes of your gender' is not a personal slant Doug, but a general one. To me that term means that you think all females are narrow minded, so therefore you are not personally getting at anyone (just 50% ish of the population)

Don't worry though Doug, I'm not narrow minded enough to hold that comment against you. It may, however, cost you half a Strongbow on Saturday..

Doug · 25-07-2004, 10:26

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Originally Posted by lettie

The term 'narrow minded attitudes of your gender' is not a personal slant Doug, but a general one. To me that term means that you think all females are narrow minded, so therefore you are not personally getting at anyone (just 50% ish of the population)

Don't worry though Doug, I'm not narrow minded enough to hold that comment against you. It may, however, cost you half a Strongbow on Saturday..

Whoops, I knew this was going to cost me, but not that much!.....ok lettie I accept your terms of forgiveness will Saturday night do. I’ll be there.

My comments where wrong, and I apologise for that. Has for the flirting (grooming) well I’m guilty. Guilty of wanting to have fun during written discourse with individuals who just happen to be adults. What’s this thread called……….

Gobsmacked · 26-07-2004, 00:10

Keep digging Doug.

Doug · 26-07-2004, 00:13

Tell me about it. B***** hell, 4 Karma points taken away for the privilege. I must try harder.

JohnW · 26-07-2004, 15:23

Getting back to the subject.

It never ceases to amaze me, that people who have an affair and then marry the person with whom they had the affair, never stop to think at the time, why this person would then not be unfaithful to them.

Doug · 26-07-2004, 15:52

It's called falling in love. Sometimes it's out of our control. Then again some of us are just stupid. Whatever, its part of life. The reasons are discussed elsewhere. But I do support the Shortstuff in her argument. There should be equality.