Everybody's Out of Step.......

[Eric]

Originally Posted by jaysay

Why, its another station on the gravy train after they leave westminster, after all the Kinnocks did quite well in retirement didn't they

It's not just that. I've always believed, and I still do, that the best deal for the little guy is a social democratic party in power ... the best deal one can get in what passes for democracy today. Seems like New Labour is "new" only that it is no longer even mildly socialist, and it is not democratic ... They sold their principles to buy votes. Seems like politics has become a profession. Churchill certainly didn't see it that way ... for all his flaws he always acted in what he considered to be the best interests of Britain.

[Margaret Pilkington]

Eric you are right...absolutely spot on. When Labour added 'new' to the name of the party, it ditched all the socialist ideals...those that working men, trade
unionists worked so very hard to instil in politicians way back when Labour was for the working man.
It courted those who had money, much as the tory party has always done.
I always thought the Tony Blair government was as tory as you could get....but they couldn't call it that could they?....they wanted all those who had been brainwashed (is that too strong a word?)while growing up to support them - New Labour bamboozled these people into thinking that the Labour party still worried about the working man, and had his interests at heart.

And politics has become a profession........it is almost like the oldest one in the world, where you can have what you want as long as you have the money rattling in your pocket...if you are poor, then you can go and whistle.

Now, where did I put my anti-cynicism pills?

[Benipete]

Originally Posted by jaysay

Well you have proved time after time you are absolutely clueless about any form of politics, which is in keeping with a few of your countrymen and for Christs sack it's Government not goverment, why don't you down load a bloody spell check you lazy git

SACK???

[MargaretR]

Originally Posted by Benipete

SACK???

Of course - needed to carry those loaves and fishes.

[yerself]

Originally Posted by jaysay

Christs sack it's Government not goverment,why don't you down load a bloody spell check you lazy git

Priceless, a spelling lesson from jaysay.

[Wynonie Harris]

Originally Posted by jaysay

why don't you down load a bloody spell check you lazy git

Karma sent, Jay. One of the funniest comments I've read on here for a long time!

[cmonstanley]

ye it was lol, lost the political argument so lets start on his punctuation

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by cmonstanley

well i would but its a bit dark here frankfurt is a finiancial centre as well

Do they not use capital letters either in Frankfurt and never heard of a finiancial centre

[Margaret Pilkington]

Originally Posted by cmonstanley

ye it was lol, lost the political argument so lets start on his punctuation

That will be fine as long as you aren't teaching him!

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Eric

It's not just that. I've always believed, and I still do, that the best deal for the little guy is a social democratic party in power ... the best deal one can get in what passes for democracy today. Seems like New Labour is "new" only that it is no longer even mildly socialist, and it is not democratic ... They sold their principles to buy votes. Seems like politics has become a profession. Churchill certainly didn't see it that way ... for all his flaws he always acted in what he considered to be the best interests of Britain.

New, Old or whatever you want to call um Eric, they've always made a pigs ear of the economy in my lifetime from good old Herold (this will not affect the pond in your pocket) to Gordon (just getting on with the job, of screwing the country into financial obscurity) Labour is the by word for financial mayhem, whichever way you dress it up, from red flag to red rose an unmitigated disaster

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by cmonstanley

ye it was lol, lost the political argument so lets start on his punctuation

Losing a political argument with you do me a favour, you have no argument to offer

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by yerself

Priceless, a spelling lesson from jaysay.

I know my short comings when in comes to the English language, but at least I do try to make what I post readable, that lazy scotch git won't even make the effort, when you start every post in low case makes you wonder which school he actually went to if any

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

Karma sent, Jay. One of the funniest comments I've read on here for a long time!

Cheers Wyn much appreciated

[Margaret Pilkington]

None of the political parties have much to be smug about.

When in opposition they call the incumbents ill to burn, they slate their policies, tell them what they should be doing. But once these opposition get into power, do they change the things that were so wrong with the government they pulled to shreds?
No of course they don't, they sit back and continue with the job of the day, maintaining the status quo.

Do they put any effort in rectifying what was so wrong with the last government....?
No, they compound the issues by doing nothing.

Many governments have, in the past, used various ways to manipulate the unemployment figures.....because if you make it look like there are fewer out of work, then this is good for the economy(or makes it look that way).

I have a sneaking suspicion that this was why the incapacity benefit was brought in(if you know any different, then I am happy to be proved wrong).......if you were incapable of work through some tenous reason, then you didn't figure in the unemployment count.......YOPS was a similar political ploy....youngsters straight out of school were given meaningless jobs(that only lasted six months - then the employer waved you bye-bye in favour of the next young mug) so that it looked like all these young people were in jobs.

No one party is better than another for their track record in massaging figures to bamboozle the electorate.

[Margaret Pilkington]

I wasn't keeping score of which political party did what back in the 70's and 80's....I was much too interested in raising a family and making a fist of my nursing career to take much notice of politics.