Everybody's Out of Step.......

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Originally Posted by jaysay

lets face it the bloody French never wanted us in the Common Market in the first place

There you go, we can even find something good to say about the French, if they had, had their way we wouldn't be in this mess.

[Acrylic-bob]

And now, its time for letterbombs.

Last week Deutsche Bank CEO, Josef Ackerman, was injured by one and today in Rome a tax collector was almost blinded by a similar device.

It seems that talk of rope and lamposts is not perhaps so far fetched after all.

[JCB]

Originally Posted by jaysay

Well a flash GE in say January there would be 3 main choices

1 Cameron

2 Mr ED

3 Clegg

I don't fancy the chances of 2 or 3 do you

I said in my post , Jaysay , that we will have a majority Conservative government .

The more I see of the Liberal Democrat despair at the Brussels' farce , and the hero's reception David Cameron will get from the Conservative MPs , the more convinced I am that there will be a General Election next year .

But the only certainty is that whatever happens we will remain in the EU . Numbers 1 , 2 , and 3 are all committed to it .

[Margaret Pilkington]

Originally Posted by jaysay

Your right about the frogs Margaret, they keep forgetting we bailed um out in two world wars, we even let the nasty little general a safe haven from those nasty Huns, then De Gaulle couldn't wait to kick us in the goolies, lets face it the bloody French never wanted us in the Common Market in the first place

No John, they have never forgotten that we bailed them out, but they have never forgiven us for it...us, the little nation of shopkeepers...isn't that what Napolean named us?
I have never forgiven Charles de Gaulle for allowing us in.

[cashman]

Originally Posted by JCB

But the only certainty is that whatever happens we will remain in the EU . Numbers 1 , 2 , and 3 are all committed to it .

Thats the bit the ordinary tories are too dumb to get.

[Margaret Pilkington]

If there is a General Election next year the I will not be voting for any party who don't give assurances to let the electorate decide on whether we Should be in or out of the EU....and I reckon there will be many more like me.
I don't want to dance to any tune that Sarkozy or Merkel want to play...........some Lib dem on TV yesterday said there was no way the Euro wanted us to give up our sovereignty...tell that to the Greeks and the Italians who have had leaders imosed on them....and it could happen here too.....could you see the Euro-puppet Nick Clegg as leader of this country? The very idea is risible.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by cashman

Thats the bit the ordinary tories are too dumb to get.

Well I haven't talked to any ordinary Tories lately cashy

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

If there is a General Election next year the I will not be voting for any party who don't give assurances to let the electorate decide on whether we Should be in or out of the EU....and I reckon there will be many more like me.
I don't want to dance to any tune that Sarkozy or Merkel want to play...........some Lib dem on TV yesterday said there was no way the Euro wanted us to give up our sovereignty...tell that to the Greeks and the Italians who have had leaders imosed on them....and it could happen here too.....could you see the Euro-puppet Nick Clegg as leader of this country? The very idea is risible.

Don't let Nick Clegg bother you Margaret, I've more chance of being leader than him

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Originally Posted by jaysay

Well I haven't talked to any ordinary Tories lately cashy

I have never spoken to an ordinary Tory in my life, they are all so full of themselves the rest of us can't get a word in edgeways!

[Margaret Pilkington]

The thing is Jaysay, it has happened in Greece and in Italy....the EU has imposed unelected leaders who are strongly in favour of all things to do with Europe........and Nick Clegg has previously worked for the EU and is bound(I think bu some regulation or other) to promote the views of the EU.....so the EU would think him a prime candidate for the leadership of the country.

Personally, I cannot see the point of voting for a politician who is happy to have all the rules made in Brussels....what is the point of having an MP if they are going to sit in the great Palace of Westminster doing the biding of the Brussles bureaucrats, rather than we, who pay their salaries?????
Talk about chewing your cabbage twice.

[Acrylic-bob]

Another thing to consider is that had Britain stupidly signed up to Europe's Federal EU Road map, it would have effectively committed Britain to supporting the Euro, come-what-may, and given the ECB access to Britain's triple A rated borrowing power.

So, we have probably saved ourselves being coerced into borrowing up to £200 billion to boost the Euro rescue fund.

Little wonder then that the Fuhrerin and her dwarf are royally pee'd off with us.

[Margaret Pilkington]

Sarkozy doesn't want the UK to leave the EU........he reckons the EU would be impoverished by our exit....so there you have it.
They are telling us they need us to stay in..........didn't look much like that when he snubbed DC.

[Acrylic-bob]

I don't think we need to worry too much about the french dwarf. After Dave's walkout on Thursday night, he knows that his chances of re-election went the same way. Did anyone read what his challenger for the presidential election said? Effectively that the accord or pact or treaty or whatever it was that they cobbled together will all have to be renegotiated after the election - more along the lines of what London had been suggesting all along.

Also in Germany there is the feeling that Der Fuhrerin has also gone too too far. Apparently there was the expectation that London would be more of a steadying influence - a failure of the F&CO, I'm not sure that wee Willy Hague is really cut out for the Foreign Office. the Bundesbank is also complaining that the 200 billion euros for the ECB to give to the IMF is Illegal anyway.

Meanwhile the Italian Bond Yield has been rising all day, the Euro is down, and it seems that the Americans are determined to make London the scapegoat for the coming market crash. It's all about hypothecation and how London made it possible for American banks to get away with so much of it.

[mobertol]

Are we heading for another Great Depression then?

Which day will be the "black" one this time i wonder.

Should we all be hitting the "mother's ruin"?

Get out your acryllics and paint us a nice bright picture for the future A-B!

[Acrylic-bob]

Everything is on course. Here's a bit of cheeruppance from the last time it happened...