Ex-Mayor in charity storm. - Page 4

jaysay · 07-06-2008, 14:54

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Originally Posted by jaysay

Sorry Gayle, just rung him and its just going to answer, but will try to find out

Just talked to TD and he's told me that besides those taking part in the fund raising others will benefit, projects like Milnshaw Residents Association, Carers Link, Visually Impaired Support Group, and others. Now doubt the full list will be published in due course, possible in the Citezen and the Tellegraph

katex · 07-06-2008, 15:10

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Originally Posted by jaysay

Just talked to TD and he's told me that besides those taking part in the fund raising others will benefit, projects like Milnshaw Residents Association, Carers Link, Visually Impaired Support Group, and others. Now doubt the full list will be published in due course, possible in the Citezen and the Tellegraph

Still in a fog Jaysay ?? Where did the money come from if it all went back to the others with interest ? Is he just talking about the money from the Mayor's Ball, boxing tournament ? If the money were invested, must have given quite a large return ? Can see that the promise of 10% would act as a carrot, and would need more than 10% to have some floating ?

Hek, I'm no economic wizard.

jaysay · 07-06-2008, 15:17

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Originally Posted by katex

Still in a fog Jaysay ?? Where did the money come from if it all went back to the others with interest ? Is he just talking about the money from the Mayor's Ball, boxing tournament ? If the money were invested, must have given quite a large return ? Can see that the promise of 10% would act as a carrot, and would need more than 10% to have some floating ?

Hek, I'm no economic wizard.

Well he did do other fund raising events as well, and I'm like you kate not an economic wizard, so long as I can work out what a round coss in the pub I'm quite happy, thank you

Gayle · 07-06-2008, 16:22

Well the amount that those organisations donated adds up to £79,880, if he were to repay them plus 10% that would cost £87,868 - as he's saying that he raised £90,000 that leaves £2,132 (more if there were any investments in there) to be divvied up between the additional charities that you've mentioned. Although I have to doubt that there were investments as in January the Mayoral Charity Fund only had £8,000 in it.

katex · 07-06-2008, 16:26

LOL Gayle, just being doing all that adding up meself. Think he will have to explain it all in print eventually .. I mean, we are reasonably intelligent, aren't we ? So, would think other people are going to demand more details.

WillowTheWhisp · 07-06-2008, 16:36

I always thought I was reasonably intelligent but I still haven't grasped it.

katex · 07-06-2008, 17:08

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I always thought I was reasonably intelligent but I still haven't grasped it.

See the poll in the Observer has gone to:-

Yes .. 20%
No ... 80%

Another Tory voter then.

How can you vote if you don't know what you voting for exactly.
Should have alternative of 'don't understand a blooming word'

garinda · 07-06-2008, 17:18

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I'm not sure he's on the internet kate, as I had to check something out fo him yesterday, but I could be wrong

Blimey, and he wants to stand as our M.P.?

At least Greg Pope comminicates with us by all available technologies.

Perhaps he'll send carrier pigeons from Westminster to Hyndburn, if we're ever daft enough to elect him, and we need a question answered.

Gayle · 07-06-2008, 17:24

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Originally Posted by jaysay

I'm not sure he's on the internet kate, as I had to check something out fo him yesterday, but I could be wrong

Don't all Councillors have access to the internet at Scaitcliffe House - or why has he got an email address there? Does someone have to print off all his emails and send them round on a bike?

lindsay ormerod · 07-06-2008, 17:56

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I think I get it now.
He raised say 10 to 12 thousand pounds through conventional fundraising as per all previous mayors. No problem there.
He then encouraged other bodies to donate their fundraising into his 'pot' to make his fundraising look more impressive. He then gave them the money back with 10% out of the funds he had raised.
Therefore in reality he only raised 10 - 12 k and gave it to the charities who collaborated in the scheme.
It's an absolutely scandalous way of trying to mislead people!

At the end of the day he did not raise 90k!

That's what it looks like to me too Chris, and it's a very misleading picture that he has painted for the public; more turns than a twisty, turny thing !

jaysay · 08-06-2008, 09:47

Well my last word on the issue is, everything was up and above board, nothing was underhand, Charities are the winners, and most off all the Observer has made a pigs ear of the story in the first place. Maybe if the person who did the story had spent a little more time researching the material, the detail woulD probably have been a little clearer than mud, but hey why let the truth get in the way of a front page headline

Pulitsar it ain't

garinda · 08-06-2008, 10:13

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Well my last word on the issue is, everything was up and above board, nothing was underhand, Charities are the winners, and most off all the Observer has made a pigs ear of the story in the first place. Maybe if the person who did the story had spent a little more time researching the material, the detail woulD probably have been a little clearer than mud, but hey why let the truth get in the way of a front page headline

Pulitsar it ain't

But why is fellow Conservative councillor Doug Hayes so upset with the way the money was raised?

katex · 08-06-2008, 10:24

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But why is fellow Conservative councillor Doug Hayes so upset with the way the money was raised?

Because he has been Mayor twice, and his charity collection is recorded as £15,000 and £18,000, so makes it look like they didn't work as hard. Sorta' jealousy factor I guess.

So could be most of the Observer votes could be ex/future Mayors ! ..

garinda · 08-06-2008, 10:42

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Because he has been Mayor twice, and his charity collection is recorded as £15,000 and £18,000, so makes it look like they didn't work as hard. Sorta' jealousy factor I guess.

So could be most of the Observer votes could be ex/future Mayors ! ..

I guess there's nothing like party unity, and this is nothing like party unity.

cashman · 08-06-2008, 10:46

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I guess there's nothing like party unity, and this is nothing like party unity.

dont matter how much mud they create, come elections the dimwits will elect em again.