Execution in Iraq - Page 2

carole · 22-09-2004, 16:30

I too have seen this obscenity. It shook me down to my boots. These people are the most inhumane creatures that ever lived. One can only hope that the bereaved families do not see it.

WillowTheWhisp · 22-09-2004, 18:04

How do you manage to find things like that accidentally? All I ever do is read my email and visit sites I already know or am told about. Maybe I'm just lucky but I never seem to accidentally come across those sort of things in searches.

My heart really goes out to the families of the people murdered (I refuse to call it execution) and to the remaining hostage.

Acrylic-bob · 22-09-2004, 18:35

>>How do you manage to find things like that accidentally?<<

I do a lot of browsing on unusual subject headings.

Bazf · 22-09-2004, 21:38

I noticed that the killings are on the internet and in todays modern era I am sure the different groups contact each other through email, im, etc plus they have web sites like Al Jazirra,s, why cant the USA or UK come up with a virus or worm that will knock out the computers? just a thought.

Acrylic-bob · 22-09-2004, 22:07

For the same reasons that governments cannot block sites that carry child pornography. Plus the use of a virus or worm would potentially threaten the whole of the internet, and I don't think that would stop either the kidnappings or the murders.

I remember at the height of the IRA bombing campaign that the government decided to prevent IRA spokesmen from speaking in the media, the idea being to deny them 'the oxygen of publicity' as Mrs. Thatcher put it at the time. Which resulted in the ridiculous performance of the BBC showing pictures of Gerry Adams speaking but having his words dubbed in by a reporter. The media will always find a way around restrictions, because it is Bad News that sells papers!

Acrylic-bob · 23-09-2004, 07:34

Funny, isn't it, how we saw them all complaining loudly and at length about poor Cat Stevens being denied entry into the United States yesterday. How unfair and unjust it was when Mr. Stevens was such a good Muslim and had never done anything wrong, except, perhaps, chanelled money to extremists and terrorists.

And still hardly a word from them about Ken Bigley.

And now it is announced, this morning, that two Italian Hostages may have been killed.

Ceejache · 23-09-2004, 13:49

My thoughts exactly A-B re:the Cat Stevens incident. Up in arms when one Muslim is refused entry to a country, hardly a peep (to my knowledge) when two, and possibly a third, innocents Christian civilians trying to rebuild a Muslim country are executed in a manner that is beyond reasonable folk worldwide....

Acrylic-bob · 23-09-2004, 15:59

I will pass on to you all these two links to different articles on the same site. American friends, who are far more clued up on these matters than I, are regarding it as a CIA funded disinformation site. What do you think?

http://www.freemuslims.org/news/article.php?article=148

http://www.freemuslims.org/news/article.php?article=144

Ceejache · 23-09-2004, 16:21

You've just got to take it at face value haven't you?

WillowTheWhisp · 23-09-2004, 17:13

We have no way of knowing who funds the site. In fact I'm sure there are many things we will never know about which go on behind the scenes. Those two articles show two totally opposing points of view and this is why we must never put labels on people.

As I was reading the first article I was thinking about things which have been done by the leaders in this country (political and religious) and asking myself if I would ever consider it my place to apologise for their actions. I doubt it. The only things I consider I need to apologise for are things which I have done myself, which is why that article impresses me so much. The author is evidently deeply concerned even though not personally responsible.

Busman747 · 27-09-2004, 23:58

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Originally Posted by Acrylic-bob

I have just watched the video posted on the internet of the execution yesterday of the American hostage in Iraq.

I came across it quite by accident, and now I curse my curiosity.

It was, without doubt, the single, most horrific, most obscence event I have ever witnessed. No one should have to die like that. Quite how the perpetrators of this crime against humanity can live with themselves is beyond me.

All our prayers should be with the remaining hostages and their families tonight.

I will not post the address of the video, please don't ask.

I wasn't looking for it, but came across perhaps the same site that you saw A-b, I tried to be selective in viewing the 1st video, but witnessed the killing of a driver from Egypt, and that affected me badly, I didn't attempt to open any more video images....... What makes these middle eastern T.V. companies broadcast such sick video's??

What makes it worse is that I found the site (in a roundabout way) from a link on this site!! message to Ifty, I know that you are not to blame personally and that your religion is not at fault, BUT ALL THESE VIDEO CLIPS ARE SUPPOSEDLY IN THE NAME OF ALLAH!

This is not something that a western government can put right, It is a virus that has embedded itself deep in the heart of Iraq and Pakistan! I once said that "only you could solve the problem" I did not mean you personally, but if the Moslem population would help more in ridding the world of scum and murderers, british citizens like yourself would feel that you are totally accepted as "one of us."

I was so pleased to hear that in Blackburn, there was a meeting of Moslems to condemn the kidnap of Ken Bigley, fantastic, but the people to be influenced are the fanatics in your country of origin AND THEIR T.V. COMPANY!!

They are doing so much damage to your religion, I hope that you, being english, can understand the torments that run through the mind of every christian person, We try not to blame religion, but it is so hard...........

I feel that those at fault are using the Moslem religion as an excuse to murder or maim innocent people, The world must unite!

Darby · 28-09-2004, 05:11

Obviously you are very concerned Busman, and I think you are right to be so.

Unfortunately it is religion that causes the world's problems...all of the religions.

Islam is intolerant of any other religion in their midst. Apostates are to be put to death!! and infidels can be killed without committing a crime against Allah!!

Christians believe that only they are right and promote the extension of their religion, increasingly seeking the young and naieve!

Jews think that they are the "chosen" people!

There is no end to what can be said for or against religion. Unfortunately, that's todays world!!

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The world must unite!

, You're not trying to start a Crusade, are you?

There's only two types of people in this world...Good and Bad!! and that's very subjective!

WillowTheWhisp · 28-09-2004, 06:58

I wish I could answer this but I don't have the right words.

I've tried, but abandoned each attempt.

Ifty · 28-09-2004, 07:31

Darby what you say is quoting only what some people say. It doesnt make everybody mean the same.

Willow say it.

Busman people can say it in the name of what they choose. I know some Christain do the same and it doesnt make them represent the whole.

Let me ask YOU Busman

If people believe ONE THING and think other people of same religion different group are wrong what makes you think they are going to listen to THE PEOPLE THEY THINK HAVE GOT IT WRONG?????

Darby · 28-09-2004, 07:56

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Darby what you say is quoting only what some people say. It doesnt make everybody mean the same

As I said...there are Good and Bad people...whatever is said or quoted.

On this site I don't assume anything about anybody. Here, we are all what we endevour to be, and Ifty could really be an Eskimo for all I know. I could be George Bush for all Ifty knows.

I don't hate anybody or anything....I just have strong dislikes and strong likes.
There's too much HATE in this world without me adding to it!

But GOOD and BAD will always be there!! Unfortunately Religion is the cause of much hatred...and bloodshed. Try to look at life without confusing Religion, Truth, and Humanity. I don't defend any religion......none are worth my efforts.