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[Margaret Pilkington]

Originally Posted by Less

Well yes, a tempting idea, however as the advert says, give a man a fish he'll eat for a day, give him a net he'll eat for life, any illegal not willing to go home should be placed on some dismal island with a net and only allowed off when he's prepared to go to his legal home.

How long have I been saying this? Not just about illegals, but those who pose a terror threat and those who are violent criminals...if they had something more relevant to concentrate on(like finding food and building shelter) then they would be far less likely to do damage to law abiding citizens.
As for human rights...well you only get them if you are human rather than humanoid. If you cannot demonstrate that you can live peacefully and sociably then this would be a sharp shock.

[Margaret Pilkington]

Originally Posted by Exile on Spencer St

With all those champagne socialists and second-home owning revolutionaries in London, who must have the odd bedroom if not entire house going spare, why are they not offering to take in all the displaced residents of Grenfell Tower, and saving the much-stressed public purse at the same time?

All the hooha from the champagne socialists is just a form of humble bragging...trying to make out they are superior, that they care when in actual fact if any action is required they do bu99er all....and making a remake of Bridge over Troubled Water is not all that great. It raises their (the so called celebs profies) as much as it raises money. Publicity is good for them..it is the air they breathe.

Money is not the answer to everything,

[st06nc2]

Think we should just send illegals and convicts to Australia like we used too

[accyman]

Originally Posted by st06nc2

Think we should just send illegals and convicts to Australia like we used too

whoa have we learned nothing from what happened the last time ?

they ended up with the better weather

[hilleluk]

Originally Posted by hilleluk

Cannot believe my ears, the Government is going to give £5.500 of taxpayers money to everyone that has lost there home. If my house was burnt down do you think they would give me that. NO. Disgusted

Missed the point. The first place I would go to if my house was burned down is my Insurance Company. Hopefully they would find me some accommodation. Would the Government give me £500.00 cash in hand, and then another £5000.00 into my bank account, I do not think so. Do you think the Local Authority would find me somewhere to live, well they might, but not straight away. People should take responsibility for themselves, and not expect the Local Authority to step in. They should have been insured.

[monkey hanger]

a couple on here have mentioned the point of them being insured or not. if they were renting the only form of insurance they needed was contents insurance. if they couldn,t be bothered with it as its not that expensive then tuff luck i say.

[cashman]

Thing thats really annoying me is people like the pillock who is Londons Mayor saying illegals that lived in the block should be given amnesty, well sorry not from were i'm standing, "Illegal is Illegal" simple as

[hilleluk]

I agree, but my point is these people are receiving a total of £5.500 because they only have the clothes there standing in

[cashman]

Originally Posted by hilleluk

I agree, but my point is these people are receiving a total of £5.500 because they only have the clothes there standing in

I aint too bothered about that to be honest, many have also lost family members, but Illegals to me should get sod all, apart from deported.

[hilleluk]

We will never no, legal or illegal, the Government are not going to check.

[AccyMad]

Originally Posted by hilleluk

Missed the point. The first place I would go to if my house was burned down is my Insurance Company. Hopefully they would find me some accommodation. Would the Government give me £500.00 cash in hand, and then another £5000.00 into my bank account, I do not think so. Do you think the Local Authority would find me somewhere to live, well they might, but not straight away. People should take responsibility for themselves, and not expect the Local Authority to step in. They should have been insured.

The point is you don't know if these people were insured or not, you're assuming they weren't, if they did have insurance how long would it take to be paid out especially in a case like this where a large investigation is talking place? These people need immediate help & I can't believe anyone would begrudge them that & give it the 'i wouldn't get it so why should they'.
As Cashy has said, lots of them also lost loved ones in this tragedy - do you think any amount of money would help with that?
They have been offered this money to help with their immediate situation, which happened through no fault of their own, nowhere does it say they expected the authorities to give it to them - put yourself in their shoes, would you give it back & say no thank you - I doubt it!

[Margaret Pilkington]

From what I read , it was reported that many of those were not insured.
My experience of insurance claims is that in situations like this the insurance companies(well, mine anyway) pay out a fixed amount to cover immediate needs of clothing and accommodation.

No amount of money can compensate them for their loss.
There was a lot of community support (not done by government, but by their community) to ensure that clothing was provided.

There has been a lot of political point scoring by some factions,the grief and misfortune was hijacked for political purposes.
To my mind this is despicable.
And then there was the 'anarchic 'Day of Rage' on Wednesday.
This was organised by the Justice by Any means Necessary.
What does that phrase avtually mean?
Does it mean that these young people(they were mainly students...but not very good students looking at the placards) were willing to break the law to get their own way?
Because that is not Justice.
These people were not showing 'solidarity' with those who lost family in the Grenfell Towers tragedy...they were political activists with only one aim in mind. Political destabilisation...at a time when things are already a bit rocky.
Someone should teach these people that if they sink the boat we are all in together...they will get wet too and some of them may drown.

The fact that the Labour party and Jeremy Corbyn did not put a stop to it...for no other reason than the police were already stretched...had their leave cancelled says much about this unwholesome political gang....because that is what they are...a gang.
No democracy in them at all.

[hilleluk]

The point is they SHOULD have been

[Margaret Pilkington]

In social housing of this nature, you should have to have contents cover and you should have to show that you have up to date insurance or your lease becomes invalid.

[hilleluk]

Exactly