Expenses, expenses... - Page 8

katex · 27-02-2009, 14:50

Sorry .. am back.

For instance .. the absolute basic allowance has gone from £3,102 >> £4,257 over the four years which is an increase of 37 % which I presume all Council Members accepted.

It's the jump from 2006/2007 to 2007/2008 which appears to be the largest, but did not all the allowances for cabinet posts (i.e. basic plus fee for post held) not increase by the same percent or was Cllr Britcliffe not the leader then ?

Neil · 27-02-2009, 15:23

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Originally Posted by katex

Sorry .. am back.

For instance .. the absolute basic allowance has gone from £3,102 >> £4,257 over the four years which is an increase of 37 % which I presume all Council Members accepted.

It's the jump from 2006/2007 to 2007/2008 which appears to be the largest, but did not all the allowances for cabinet posts (i.e. basic plus fee for post held) not increase by the same percent or was Cllr Britcliffe not the leader then ?

Is that the year they started to be allowed to claim more than one special allowance for extra work they do?

katex · 27-02-2009, 15:55

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Originally Posted by Neil

Is that the year they started to be allowed to claim more than one special allowance for extra work they do?

Well, no Neil ... not what I was getting at.

If you look at 2006/2007, his claim for allowances (not including basic) was £16,616 (including specials) then 2007/2008 was £21,862 .. of which he was being paid £20,448 for being leader of the council, so any special in that latter year would have only been £1,414. So if he were leader of the council 2006/2007, then that particular allowance for that position must have increased dramatically the following year. However, the increases for posts appears to sweep across the board, according to this year's increases. That's why I am asking. Don't know what special positions he has held over the years.

Needs more of a break down ultimately, otherwise, Claytonender may have misrepresented the figures.

Eric · 27-02-2009, 16:41

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Originally Posted by turkishdelight

Anyone can take the path of this good education if they choose too.I dont get the bit Slapped them in the face?

It would be easier to understand what you mean if you posted in English ... you know, the language we are all supposed to use ....

claytonender · 27-02-2009, 16:45

Katex - the members allowances for councillors are increased in April each year - subject to it being voted on by the Full Council. For the current year 2008-2009 the basic allowance (which all councillors are entitled to claim) is £4388 and then there are various special allowances in addition to this - the Leader of the Council is entitled to claim £20448, the 2 deputy leaders £10224 and the other 3 cabinet members £7679.
There are also several other special allowances -Chair of Area Council £724, Chair of Judical £1448 and chair of Licensing £1448 that Peter Britcliffe is claiming in the current year 2008-2009.

This is a link to the 2008-2009 Member's Allowance page.
Council Constitution

I am claiming £4388 +a special allowance of £724 because I am Secretary of the Labour Group.

The figures I have quoted for the years 2003-2004, 2004-2005, 2005-2006, 2006-2007 and 2007-2008 are correct. (Basis + special allowances)
2003-2004 £3102.75 + £11765.02 =£14867.77
2004-2005 £3134.74 + £12644.62 =£15779.36
2005-2006 £3726.46 + £14549.46 =£18275.92
2006-2007 £4154.10 + £16616.04 =£20770.14
2007-2008 £4257.97 + £26119.98 =£26119.98

I have not included in these figures any claims for childcare, mileage or subsistence - the figures are purely for allowances claimed as a member of Hyndburn Council.

turkishdelight · 27-02-2009, 17:16

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Originally Posted by Eric

It would be easier to understand what you mean if you posted in English ... you know, the language we are all supposed to use ....

Havent a clue what your implying here.

Eric · 27-02-2009, 17:24

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Originally Posted by turkishdelight

Havent a clue what your implying here.

Somehow, I didn't think you would .....

lancsdave · 27-02-2009, 17:28

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Originally Posted by claytonender

2007-2008 £4257.97 + £26119.98 =£26119.98

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You might want to change that before you interupt Andrew penning his extensive explanation of PB's expenses to tell you that you can't add up

jaysay · 27-02-2009, 17:35

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Originally Posted by lancsdave

You might want to change that before you interupt Andrew penning his extensive explanation of PB's expenses to tell you that you can't add up

Shuuuuuuush dave you'll have the honerable member for Church scratching her head

turkishdelight · 27-02-2009, 17:37

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Originally Posted by Eric

Somehow, I didn't think you would .....

I challenge you to explain your quote Mr. poet.

claytonender · 27-02-2009, 17:39

The correct figures fro 2007-2008

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Originally Posted by lancsdave

You might want to change that before you interupt Andrew penning his extensive explanation of PB's expenses to tell you that you can't add up

Thanks for that Lancsdave

- I have the information on a spreadsheet and was being a little too eager to get to the end of the Figures. I did give the correct figures in post 35 of this thread (so yes I can add up). But here they are again.

2007-2008 £4257.97 + £21862.01 = £26119.98

Less · 27-02-2009, 17:40

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Originally Posted by turkishdelight

I challenge you to explain your quote Mr. poet.

I challenge you to understand it, even if he uses words of one syllable!

claytonender · 27-02-2009, 17:43

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Originally Posted by jaysay

Shuuuuuuush dave you'll have the honerable member for Church scratching her head

No need to scratch my head - I had already posted the correct figures in post 35. And have now corrected them. It still doesn't alter the fact that in 2007-2008 Peter Britcliffe claimed £26119.98 (which if equated to a % of council tax is quite a high percentage - I am sure you know how much revenue has to be raised for each 1% of council tax.