Faith In Its Purest Form.

Lolly · 31-01-2007, 22:20

I read this in The Sun today.....

Nick Wallis suffers from Duchenne Muscular Dystrophy and is confined from a wheelchair. He's 22 and, after failing to meet anyone special at University, deciding he didnt want to die without experiencing sex.

So he approached staff at the Christian Foundation Hospice where he spends much of his time and asked them to book him a prostitute.
Which after much consultation, they duly did.

Sister Frances, founder of the Oxfordshire-based hospice says: "Yes, I am a nun. But first and foremost I'm a human being. My God is one of suprise. Jesus never ceased to amaze people's expectations - especially the religious - and I challenge anyone who has not walked in his shoes, who has not lived with what he does, to judge him"

And there you have it. Religious faith in its purest form, as it was always meant to be, practised by someone fundamentally good, flexible to the point of view of others, and non judgmental.
It hammers home how many religions in modern Britain have now been hijacked by those who use its name to bully others, judge harshly those who don't comply to their thinking, and at worst, actually inflict harm or death.

Busman747 · 31-01-2007, 22:53

Nice story lolly.........but under the circumstances, I think that the majority (not all) of religious leaders of whatever faith would probably do the same. I agree that dictates from the hierarchy in most religions are quite rigid.......but further down the line, priests, vicars, nuns etc have a certain amount of choice as to how they interpret those rules.

Lolly · 31-01-2007, 22:56

Of course they do i'm not doubting that for a second, this is just an example of one such person who did.

garinda · 31-01-2007, 23:03

There is another thread on this story as well.

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/s...&highlight=nun

Lolly · 31-01-2007, 23:06

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Originally Posted by garinda

There is another thread on this story as well.

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/s...&highlight=nun

Apologies for doubling a thread.

garinda · 31-01-2007, 23:11

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Originally Posted by Lolly

Apologies for doubling a thread.

Don't appologise hun. I'm always doing it. The mods will probably join your thread to the other.

harwood red · 01-02-2007, 01:07

it has been featured in Helen house which is a programme I have been taping on BBC2 tues eve's 10pm and it was dealt with care, consideration and foremost with the lad making all the decisions himself. the story will be continued next week

chav1 · 01-02-2007, 02:14

if the nun had any decency she woulda put the money towards charity and done him herself and put it down to gods work

nuns uniform is a bonus and he could die knowing that not many people can say they have done a nun before they die

skippy · 01-02-2007, 20:58

[quote=chav1;377780]if the nun had any decency she woulda put the money towards charity and done him herself
iagree chav, if the nun thought helping him in this way was such a noble act she should have volunteered for the job herself. i think it disgusting that sex for sale has been endorsed by aso called religious person.

garinda · 01-02-2007, 23:53

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Originally Posted by skippy

i think it disgusting that sex for sale has been endorsed by aso called religious person.

Not very Christian.

Jesus befriended the fallen woman.

He even washed the feet of Mary Magdalene.

I think he might have been a little more charitable than you.

WillowTheWhisp · 02-02-2007, 09:18

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Originally Posted by garinda

Not very Christian.

Jesus befriended the fallen woman.

He even washed the feet of Mary Magdalene.

I think he might have been a little more charitable than you.

It is now widely disputed that Mary Magdalene and the prostitute were one and the same person. There is no actual Biblical evidence to back up that popular idea.

WillowTheWhisp · 02-02-2007, 09:25

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Originally Posted by Lolly

I read this in The Sun today.....

Nick Wallis suffers from Duchenne Muscular Dystrophy and is confined from a wheelchair. He's 22 and, after failing to meet anyone special at University, deciding he didnt want to die without experiencing sex.

So he approached staff at the Christian Foundation Hospice where he spends much of his time and asked them to book him a prostitute.
Which after much consultation, they duly did.

That's not exactly how it happened according to Mr. Wallis in the newspaper article on the previous link.

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"I found an advert from a sex worker in a magazine for the disabled," said Mr Wallis. "The initial contact was by email and then by phone."
It was arranged for the prostitute to visit his home in Northampton. "My parents went out," he said.
"It was not emotionally fulfilling, but the lady was very pleasant and very understanding. I do not know whether I would do it again. I would much rather find a girlfriend, but I have to be realistic."

I find it rather moving that he said it was not emotionally fulfilling and that he would much rather find a girlfriend. Sadly that isn't something anyone else can assist with is it?

garinda · 02-02-2007, 09:36

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp

It is now widely disputed that Mary Magdalene and the prostitute were one and the same person. There is no actual Biblical evidence to back up that popular idea.

Let's be totally honest, there is very little actual evidence to back up the Bible full stop.

As a Christian concept, about Jesus befriending the outcasts, the Bible is fairly clear though.

WillowTheWhisp · 02-02-2007, 19:36

Hmm but I don't think it's meant to imply that he condoned prostitution. To the woman who'd committed adultery, although he forgave her sins, didn't he say "sin no more"?

WillowTheWhisp · 07-02-2007, 09:24

I watched the program on TV last night. It was very moving, especially the family who had lost thier son and now seeing their daughter go through the same thing.

The young man who had hired the prostitute was also featured and it was good to get the actual true version of events instead of the misinterpretations and misrepresentations.

There was no nun involved in the situation at all. The sex worker visited him after he had made contact via ads in a magazine for disabled people. He did have help from a care worker but the bearded guy with tattoed arms didn't look much like a nun to me. In fact I didn't see a nun anywhere at all. From what was shown on TV I presume the hospice where this young man spends a lot of (but certainly not all of) his time is a Christian Hospice run by one or possibly more than one nun. It certainly isn't staffed entirely by nuns. It would seem that those in charge have an attitude of tolerance where they do not seek to impose their own standards/lifestyle/moral judgements upon others but leave everyone to make their own decisions, offering help support and advice when requested.

In this case Nick Wallis had made his own mind up what he wanted and he went about getting it. Even the content of the emails which he wrote to the various sex workers was down to him - the care worker who was helping him with any physical assistance he required did actually mention that some of the things Nick wrote in his emails might have put the prostitutes off because he wasn't getting any response but the young man wanted to explain his situation to them from the start.

I totally agree with allowing everyone the freedom to make their own choices.

Sadly, he did say afterwards that it wasn't really what he had hoped for because there was no emotion involved. It sounds to me that what he is really looking for is a loving relationship and so sad that he may die without having experienced that.

His care worker said something about it being a bad thing that disabled people's needs are not being met - but how can that need be met? It's not something you can create by law or by NHS provision or social services is it?

Everyone needs to be loved and so very, very sad when anyone misses that.