Falklands will it happen again

[accyman]

Originally Posted by jaysay

If you've nout to hide you've nout to bother about

i shut my curtains at night because i dont want people looking in .Im not doing any wrong i just want privacey.Its exactly the same with my computer im not doing any wrong and if teh government thinks i am they shoudl get a warrant to search my computer not spy on me.

this is the UK not iran or china

just another abuse of power under the word terrorism

Any self respecting terrorist will use a proxy outside of teh uk and the government wont be able to monitor them so this law basically monitors everyone but terrorists

[MargaretR]

Laws get changed.
What is legal today may be illegal tomorrow.

[kestrelx]

Originally Posted by accyman

i shut my curtains at night because i dont want people looking in .Im not doing any wrong i just want privacey.Its exactly the same with my computer im not doing any wrong and if teh government thinks i am they shoudl get a warrant to search my computer not spy on me.

this is the UK not iran or china

just another abuse of power under the word terrorism

Any self respecting terrorist will use a proxy outside of teh uk and the government wont be able to monitor them so this law basically monitors everyone but terrorists

Is it censorship by intimidation? That is people will be scared what they say in e-mails just in case some Government agent is keeping records - where will it lead? If I say "Terrorist" in an e-mail will that mean my e-mail is worthy of further scrutiny?

Who really knows? They say they'll need a warrant to actually read e-mails?

Better not say anything about Argentina then! lol

[kestrelx]

Originally Posted by walkinman221

As people demonstrate and riot in Buenos aeries, and we remember the dead from the first falklands campaign thirty years ago. Are we heading for war again with Argentina, and if we are is it worth fighting over? If Argentina do invade will we fight or is the time for colonial outposts gone forever.

I doubt it - they don't have the weapons they had back then - their air force is depleted to what it was then - they are not fit to fight these days!

[Gordon Booth]

Just supposing you were feeling really sneaky-
A Boeing 747/400 belonging to Aerolineas Argentinas sends out a mayday signal and requests an immediate emergency landing at Port Stanley (during darkness). It would have to be allowed to land!
As soon as it stops the emergency slides drop and 1500 Argentinean Special Service troops flood out(the 747/400 can carry 660 passengers with seats installed so without seats 1500 troops would be possible). They're supposed to be good, not like the conscripts in 1982!
We only have 1200 troops in total, not that many of them will be deployed at the airfield!
Once they have the airfield troop carriers already airborne come in or they parachute in re-enforcements. A 747 cargo plane could even bring in a few armoured vehicles.
Typhoons can't take off, no airfield, Type 45 destroyer and nuclear sub- no use.
Your move, UK!
It was mentioned on BBC internet and the more you develop the idea(if you're a sneaky Argie) the more possible it seems.
Didn't the Israelis do something similar in Uganda and it worked?

[Wrighty]

Originally Posted by MargaretR

Laws get changed.
What is legal today may be illegal tomorrow.

And the only reason this is happening is so the elites can further there agenda & persecute anyone who speaks out against what the government are doing

[Boeing Guy]

Originally Posted by Gordon Booth

Just supposing you were feeling really sneaky-
A Boeing 747/400 belonging to Aerolineas Argentinas sends out a mayday signal and requests an immediate emergency landing at Port Stanley (during darkness). It would have to be allowed to land!
As soon as it stops the emergency slides drop and 1500 Argentinean Special Service troops flood out(the 747/400 can carry 660 passengers with seats installed so without seats 1500 troops would be possible). They're supposed to be good, not like the conscripts in 1982!
We only have 1200 troops in total, not that many of them will be deployed at the airfield!

A few small problems with that, Aerolineas Argentinas don't have any Boeing 747-400's in their fleet.
The largest aircraft they have is a Airbus 340 with 287 seats, if you were really lucky you might, just might get 500 troops in with their guns, but thats about it.

Next the exit, well from experience, I can tell you there is no way you are going to exit a aircraft with any equipment attached to you, no bergens no guns and no boots, unless of course you want the slide to tear in the first few men out.

Lastly although Aerolineas Argentinas do fly out of Hermes Quijada International Airport, Rio Grande, this being the only real airport they could use for a possible diversion into the Falklands, the only destination is Buenos Aires, which is no where near the islands.

Before anyone makes assumptions about having a change of flight plan, or not following one, well although they could do that, they will be monitored from their transponder, if they turn it off, they will defienatly be followed and have a very warm reception awaiting them.
The flight plan has to be filed and the Falkland Defenses will have a copy of it, thats the ruels, otherwise again a warm recpetion once they land.

Sounds like a Armchair pilot on the BBC website

[Gordon Booth]

Now you've spoilt it for me, Boeing Guy! I was going to try to raise funding for a film but I won't bother now.
I was even going to make you a star doing the stunt flying in the 747 dodging Rapier missiles!

Funnily enough if you google Argentine+Airlines Aerolineas is listed as having a 747/200?
I suppose jumping out of the top deck of a 747 opposite a couple of machine gun nests could be a bit iffy but they're only Argies after all and if it didn't work we'd have won again, wouldn't we?

[Gordon Booth]

Originally Posted by Gordon Booth

Funnily enough if you google Argentine+Airlines Aerolineas is listed as having a 747/200?

Correction- they did have a 747/200 and a 400 but both are retired, must be an old photo.
All right, the whole idea is rubbish, I won't give up my day job.

[Boeing Guy]

Don't sweat it Gordon, it would make a good plot for a book though.
Maybe use steel ramps instead of the slides....

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Wrighty

Its an invasion of privacy simple as that & shouldn't be allowed

There not interested in me or you, don't believe everything the Guardian spouts out, if by better surveillance of electronic messaging it avoids another 7/7 that's fine by me

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Wrighty

And the only reason this is happening is so the elites can further there agenda & persecute anyone who speaks out against what the government are doing

You do talk some utter unadulterated crap

[Wrighty]

Originally Posted by jaysay

There not interested in me or you, don't believe everything the Guardian spouts out, if by better surveillance of electronic messaging it avoids another 7/7 that's fine by me

Originally Posted by jaysay

You do talk some utter unadulterated crap

They are interested in anybody who doesn't agree with what the government are doing .. & as for 7/7 there is a lot of unanswered questions .. but you believe anything msm tell ya like a good old chap .. nothing to see here .. move along plz

I talk crap ? lol .. I haven't got my head in the sand unlike some people

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Wrighty

They are interested in anybody who doesn't agree with what the government are doing .. & as for 7/7 there is a lot of unanswered questions .. but you believe anything msm tell ya like a good old chap .. nothing to see here .. move along plz

I talk crap ? lol .. I haven't got my head in the sand unlike some people

No its stuck firmly up your rear end

[Wrighty]

Originally Posted by jaysay

No its stuck firmly up your rear end

Nothing else better to say eh ? , Look if people want to believe the msm so be it , but at end of the day they are government run & will only tell you what the government want you yo know .. why do you think they are after locking down the internet ? because people are waking up to the corruption & the lies they spout!