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24-09-2008, 21:12
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Re: Fasting
I could probably do without the food during the day but I know I couldn't function to the best of my abilities without drinking water, and I am also concerned about the sleep patterns, if you are getting up at 3am to make a meal for your family and then not getting back to sleep that is a very long day.
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24-09-2008, 21:28
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Re: Fasting
Would the 3am riser also be working full time?
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24-09-2008, 21:32
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Re: Fasting
must be a new trend, getting up at 3-00 am cooking, me mates wife used to make a great big panfull during the the day to be scranned evening n next early morning, i know this cos i always used to get some.
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25-09-2008, 09:05
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Re: Fasting
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Originally Posted by lindsay ormerod
I could probably do without the food during the day but I know I couldn't function to the best of my abilities without drinking water, and I am also concerned about the sleep patterns, if you are getting up at 3am to make a meal for your family and then not getting back to sleep that is a very long day.
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I agree with you on the water lindsay, I drink around 2 to 3 litres a day, in fact water is the only thing I drink usuall during the week, might have a coffee or two at weekends. If more people drank around 2 litres a day it would improve health, as water tends to clear your system of unwanted eliments
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25-09-2008, 12:13
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Re: Fasting
Might Muslims be entitled to take time off on sick pay? Surely it's thier human right!
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25-09-2008, 12:20
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Re: Fasting
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But it isn't continual fasting. If a person did fast continually for 30 days then yes I would worry about their state of health and whether or not they were capable of doing their job, in fact if they didn't drink for 30 days they would probably pass out and be extremely dehydrated, but Muslims who fast for Ramadan only do so during daylight hours so they are eating before sunrise and after sunset. It is possible to start the day with something which has a high glycaemic index such as lentils, beans, rice, porridge etc, which will release energy slowly throughout the day. Not having the morning sehri meal could be a problem but those who fast wisely will remain healthy and alert. I'm sure they realise this.
My Dad used to work in precision engineering as an inspector and never noticed any fall in standards by the Muslim workers during Ramadan.
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I never stated that it was continual fasting. You know what I meant but then why let the opportunity to gain some Brownie points go by.
So let me make it quite clear.
It is one thing fasting between sunrise and sunset for one day a month and totally another to do so for 30 consecutive days.
Incidentally a human being will die not just ‘pass out’ without fluid intake for 30 days. But then I suppose that dying is passing out permanently.
I believe that the time limit is five days without any fluid intake and if you not dead you are beyond the point of recovery.
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25-09-2008, 12:25
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Re: Fasting
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Might Muslims be entitled to take time off on sick pay? Surely it's thier human right!
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If they were sick then yes.
But can a self inflicted fast be classed as sick?
I don't think that it can?
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25-09-2008, 13:37
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Re: Fasting
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Might Muslims be entitled to take time off on sick pay? Surely it's thier human right!
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The country would grind to a halt...
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25-09-2008, 17:51
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Re: Fasting
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Would the 3am riser also be working full time?
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Yep, she gets up at 3 to make a meal for her husband, and then after eating and failing to get back to sleep she comes into work looking very very tired.....
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25-09-2008, 17:55
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Re: Fasting
poor woman. I'm not surprised she is tired.
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26-09-2008, 15:10
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Re: Fasting
Scientific research shows that to function properly the brain needs fluids (amongst other things)
Long periods without any new fluid will, without doubt affect a human beings concentration
I do not think that any religion should be allowed to interfere with a persons basic functions especially if these affect the rest of us
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27-09-2008, 15:07
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Re: Fasting
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Yep, she gets up at 3 to make a meal for her husband, and then after eating and failing to get back to sleep she comes into work looking very very tired.....
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Well then she is a very silly person.There is no reason to do that so it must be by choice.As Cashy said they can eat anytime after sunset and anytime before sunrise.
At the moment that gives them a 12 hour window - Must be after the sympathy vote - Won't get it here.
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27-09-2008, 15:18
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Re: Fasting
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Originally Posted by lindsay ormerod
Yep, she gets up at 3 to make a meal for her husband, and then after eating and failing to get back to sleep she comes into work looking very very tired.....
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then to me, thats not a woman, its a SLAVE. no need fer it at all.
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27-09-2008, 15:23
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Re: Fasting
I wonder if she does it voluntarily or if it is 'expected' of her by her family?
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27-09-2008, 15:50
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Coffin Dodger.
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Re: Fasting
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I wonder if she does it voluntarily or if it is 'expected' of her by her family?
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commonsense tells me, there is underlying factors in it, no one would do that voluntary.
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