Fine, Speeding, Court Ect

[katex]

Originally Posted by Benipete

I thought everyone new that,it is after all common knowledge.

Yes, but was just trying to get a professional statement without excessive googling and put in a straightforward and simplistic way ... peevish ...

[***Mr D***]

Originally Posted by katex

Here you go Mr D, have asked me expert:-

"The 'revenue' from speeding fines (it's not really revenue it's
endorsable penalties issued by the police authority/courts as a
punishment for breaking the speed limit - something people tend to
forget...) is split roughly 85/15 between reinvestment in local road
safety programmes and the Treasury. The reinvestment in local road
safety would be split between the Local Highway Authority, the Police,
the Magistrates' Courts and the Local Camera Partnership (a consortium
body of different groups who decide where cameras might be needed and
monitor their relevance etc). It is harder to identify what the
Treasury choose to spend their 15% on because they don't need to
identify 'ring-fenced' funding streams. I suspect it would just go into
the central 'pot' that pays for all public services - not necessarily a
bad thing - because public services cost money."

Thanks for this information, when I have time I will digest it.

Originally Posted by Benipete

I thought everyone new that,it is after all common knowledge.

Still some people prefer to live in their own little world of conspiracy theories.Ah bless 'em

Are we not allowed to question things.

Im still awaiting for you to tell me who it is as you state you know.

[katex]

Originally Posted by MargaretR

PS - traffic wardens now have a card which they can produce to gain entry to your home - now what purpose is that?
Maybe to take on police duties when police are busy.
.

Did dispute this Margaret ...so thought I would ask this question from the horse's mouth. This is the reply I received:-

Dear Ms *****

Civil enforcement officers do not carry cards which enable them to enter
homes. I believe this may have been mixed up with officers that the
government are looking to employ in the future to enter peoples homes to
assess them for council tax etc.

Regards
ICPSMW
ParkWise
Po Box 1023
Preston
PR1 3ZA
www.parkwise.org.uk
Enquiry line: 0800 195 2774
E-Fax: 01772 530730
Payments: 0845 117 2924
ParkWise is the name given to the partnership between Lancashire County
Council and the twelve non metropolitan district councils of Lancashire
who enforce and administrate civil parking enforcement on the highway
and off street car parks.

[***Mr D***]

Originally Posted by katex

Did dispute this Margaret ...so thought I would ask this question from the horse's mouth. This is the reply I received:-

Dear Ms *****

Civil enforcement officers do not carry cards which enable them to enter
homes. I believe this may have been mixed up with officers that the
government are looking to employ in the future to enter peoples homes to
assess them for council tax etc.

Regards
ICPSMW
ParkWise
Po Box 1023
Preston
PR1 3ZA
www.parkwise.org.uk
Enquiry line: 0800 195 2774
E-Fax: 01772 530730
Payments: 0845 117 2924
ParkWise is the name given to the partnership between Lancashire County
Council and the twelve non metropolitan district councils of Lancashire
who enforce and administrate civil parking enforcement on the highway
and off street car parks.

I admire your quest for information.

I would say they may not "Carry Cards" now but may have them planned for the future.

And whats this about officers that the govement are looking to employ to enter people's homes to assess them for council tax Ect.??

[katex]

Originally Posted by ***Mr D***

And whats this about officers that the govement are looking to employ to enter people's homes to assess them for council tax Ect.??

Dunno Mr D .. wondered myself, but wouldn't worry, will probably only affect folks who are 'twisting' the facts of their accommodation ...or maybe spotchecks on who is living there in time for the next census ....

[***Mr D***]

Originally Posted by katex

Dunno Mr D .. wondered myself, but wouldn't worry, will probably only affect folks who are 'twisting' the facts of their accommodation ...or maybe spotchecks on who is living there in time for the next census ....

Worry Me, Never.

Census whats that then.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by ***Mr D***

Worry Me, Never.

Census whats that then.

I think its something you have to fill in every ten years are so, or you get a great big fine

[Less]

Originally Posted by jaysay

I think its something you have to fill in every ten years are so, or you get a great big fine

Yes it is, I sometimes wonder if they go too far with their questions and infringe on our right's to freedom and privacy.

Why should there be a penalty of any kind if I, for example refused to fill it in?

[derekgas]

Spot on Less, a bit like, why should I be forced to pay a parking fine, when my son was driving my flippin car, back in December, he will pay me back, but if he didnt, there is nothing I can do other than pay the fine! never had a damn parking fine of my own, I always got away with it by appeal!

[katex]

Originally Posted by derekgas

Spot on Less, a bit like, why should I be forced to pay a parking fine, when my son was driving my flippin car, back in December, he will pay me back, but if he didnt, there is nothing I can do other than pay the fine! never had a damn parking fine of my own, I always got away with it by appeal!

That's tough Derek, but parking tickets are issued to the owner of the vehicle, not the user at the time (not a criminal offence like speeding). You were responsible for lending out the car so will have to take the user to task. Can you imagine the cost if everyone were arguing that they were not the user at the time .. would cost a fortune.

Sure you will sort yer lad out though ... LOL.

[MargaretR]

Todays Mail on Line
State recruits an army of private snoopers with police-style powers | Mail Online

[***Mr D***]

Originally Posted by MargaretR

Todays Mail on Line
State recruits an army of private snoopers with police-style powers | Mail Online

Intersting Link,

Time for people to learn there rights.

[Benipete]

Originally Posted by katex

That's tough Derek, but parking tickets are issued to the owner of the vehicle, not the user at the time (not a criminal offence like speeding). You were responsible for lending out the car so will have to take the user to task. Can you imagine the cost if everyone were arguing that they were not the user at the time .. would cost a fortune.

Sure you will sort yer lad out though ... LOL.

The same rules apply in Spain for most traffic offences,they don't care who was driving,It's the owners responsibility.if the owner lends his/her car to an idiot that is their fault.

Seems to work for them.

[MargaretR]

If that bailiff is a registered 'accredited person', he has police powers as shown in the police Reform Act 2002
http://www.acpo.police.uk/asp/polici...20apr%2007.pdf
http://police.homeoffice.gov.uk/publ...rs?view=Binary

The Police Reform Act 2002 (“the Act”) introduced a system whereby persons who are not police officers may exercise certain police powers. Under Section 40 of the Act it is stated that the Chief Officer of any police force may, if considered that it is appropriate to do so (for the purposes set out in Section 40(3) of the Act), establish and maintain a scheme to be known as a “Community Safety Accreditation Scheme”(CSAS).


(1) Any person who assaults: -

(a) a designated person in the execution of their duty,

(b) an accredited person in the execution of their duty, or

(c) a person assisting a designated or accredited person in the execution of their duty, is guilty of an offence and shall be liable on, summary conviction, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding six months or to a fine not exceeding level 5 on the standard scale or both.


(2) Any person who resists or wilfully obstructs: -

(a) a designated person in the execution of their duty,

(b) an accredited person in the execution of their duty, or

(c) a person assisting a designated or accredited person in the execution of their duty,
is guilty of an offence and shall be liable on, summary conviction, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding one month or to a fine not exceeding level 3 on the standard scale or both.

(3) Any person who with intent to deceive: -

(a) impersonates a designated person or accredited person

(b) makes any statement or does any act calculated falsely to suggest that he is a designated person or accredited person,

(c) makes any statement or does any act calculated falsely to suggest that he has powers as a designated person or accredited person that exceed the powers that he actually has, is guilty of an offence and shall be liable, on summary conviction, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding six months or to a fine not exceeding level 5 on the standard scale or both.


1984

[MargaretR]

Oh dear - I meant that post to go in DerekGas's bailiff thread
..so I have put it there too