Flood Problems

[Accyexplorer]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

get over it Jason..it is what politicians of every colour do...if they didn't do it they would be slammed as uncaring...when they do do it they are subjected to the kind of ridicule that you have posted....it is a case of damned if they do and damned if they don't.

Visiting an area is just a Google Page Ranking thing...much as is the visiting of contituencies during and election.
It serves only the media circus in real terms.
What is really needed is the clearing of drains, the widening and deepening of rivers which are prone to flooding, the cessation of building on flood plains, the planting of more trees.......and lastly(but no less important) financial aid for those areas affected...not just to build back the infrastructure but to help those whose homes have suffered damage.

In the past when there have been natural disasters in other parts of the world, the good old Brits have put their hands deep into their pockets and given money.......do you see any country doing this right now to help our flood victims?

I'm over it,I'm lucky enough not to be effected by these tragic floods.
It must be made even worse for those poor souls effected as these floods have come at a time when these folk would probably be relaxing and spending time with relatives etc.
Your comment suggests that by Cameron 'visiting' these areas he cares,do you really think this is the case...I didn't think so.

The government has cut funding and chooses to ignore advice from the EA so it's hardly surprising flooding has become a real problem.
I agree,perhaps it is time to stop putting foreign aid and expenses before the needs of these local folk.

[cashman]

Would imagine most people are aware it don't help them now, its the simple fact of hypocritical behavior by Cameron thats galling to me.

[Margaret Pilkington]

Originally Posted by Accyexplorer

I'm over it,I'm lucky enough not to be effected by these tragic floods.
It must be made even worse for those poor souls effected as these floods have come at a time when these folk would probably be relaxing and spending time with relatives etc.
Your comment suggests that by Cameron 'visiting' these areas he cares,do you really think this is the case...I didn't think so.

The government has cut funding and chooses to ignore advice from the EA so it's hardly surprising flooding has become a real problem.
I agree,perhaps it is time to stop putting foreign aid and expenses before the needs of these local folk.

You need to read my post again Jason.
I don't know where you got the idea that by visiting these areas shows he cares.
I said in a previous post that this is what politicians of all colours do in an attempt to make it look as though they are concerned.....I also said it is just a Public relations exercise......a media circus.
But had he not done this he would have been damned by you as being unconcerned......hence the comment damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.

There is nothing to suggest that if funding had not been cut the situation would have been any better.
I agree that money set aside for foreign aid.....much of it going to despotic regimes, should be made available for improvements to be funded.

We should get some of the money we pay into the EU to cover costs of the clean up......apparently there is a fund for such things. I have not heard anything about whether an application for such funds has been submitted.....though why you would need to submit a request when there is evidence of the damage being relayed around the world.

[Rowlf]

I read a good article in the Guardian yesterday about landlords who own grouse moors. They are paid subsidies like farmers and they are using it to make the ground better for the birds which means water runs off to flood villages and town below. Disgraceful.

[Neil]

Originally Posted by Rowlf

I read a good article in the Guardian yesterday about landlords who own grouse moors. They are paid subsidies like farmers and they are using it to make the ground better for the birds which means water runs off to flood villages and town below. Disgraceful.

Have a read of this though about how dredging rivers beds isn't allowed The EU is to Blame for Britain's Flood Disaster

[cashman]

Good reading, but the E.U. didn't make the cuts.

[Rowlf]

And the EU is not paying landowners to drain their land so they can make more money out of shooting parties while the peasants in the valleys are flooded out their homes.

[Guinness]

Just watched the leader of labour run LCC on Granada Reports, one Jenny Mein discussing the flooding. One of her comments was that she and her colleagues have been 'working very hard' to ensure that the 'most vulnerable' i.e. the aged and infirm were being attended to, because 'they are the most needy' in these difficult times....

Yay..(the cynic in me thinks, 3 days later and after the benefit of a speech writer) councillors do have the community that voted them in at heart!

Then I read this...

'RIDICULOUS?: Lancashire County Council to spend £6.6m on money saving experts (From Lancashire Telegraph)

Our beloved labour LCC, from behind closed doors, outsourcing, to the value of £6.6 million, attempting to find ways to swindle the 'needy'

And there you have it..people who stand for any council (usually through nepotism or the old boys network), not having the semblance of a clue what the job entails, not having any leadership skills whatsoever (except perhaps a bit of a personality, the right clothing sense and a photogenic smile)...but clueless and useless when the chips go down...trying to find others to do their jobs at our expense.

Who can forget our MP who couldn't recall where he lived, the local councillor who blamed an imaginary national decision, the councillor who can just about see the ward he represents through his backyard telescope....bloody pathetic in a crisis the lot of them.......shift the blame, avoid the issue or just shut up shop and wait for something good that the can align themselves with to surface to win votes..

Not going to wish anyone a happy new year..cos it aint gonna happen

[Rowlf]

My son has just been selected to stand for a ward in next May's local elections because he wants to help people. Perhaps if more folk who criticise councillors stood up to be counted and put themselves forward we would all benefit from having representatives to truly cared.

[Less]

Originally Posted by Rowlf

My son has just been selected to stand for a ward in next May's local elections because he wants to help people. Perhaps if more folk who criticise councillors stood up to be counted and put themselves forward we would all benefit from having representatives to truly cared.

Here ends the Political broadcast on behalf of the Rowlf party...

...or does it?

[Neil]

Originally Posted by Rowlf

My son has just been selected to stand for a ward in next May's local elections because he wants to help people. Perhaps if more folk who criticise councillors stood up to be counted and put themselves forward we would all benefit from having representatives to truly cared.

Maybe we are interested in our communities but are not interested in politics or the pathetic nonsense that comes with political parties so we find other ways to help our communities instead.

[Guinness]

Originally Posted by Rowlf

My son has just been selected to stand for a ward in next May's local elections because he wants to help people. Perhaps if more folk who criticise councillors stood up to be counted and put themselves forward we would all benefit from having representatives to truly cared.

'Selected' by who exactly? Certainly wasn't me. Wants to help people but stands under a political party flag and no doubt will toe the political party line when told to do so regardless of the people who he hopes will vote for him....

There are 4 local people in the news today, who do not need electing, nor do they look for plaudits...

New Year's Honours galore as four heroes recognised - Accrington Observer

There are many more local people who work tirelessly for the community without recognition because they care.

If your son truly wants to 'help people', he'd be much better off doing it the way these guys do it. The days of entering politics to 'help people' ended with Thatcherism and Blairism.

[Rowlf]

I am obviously less cynical than a lot of you.

[Neil]

Originally Posted by Rowlf

I am obviously less cynical than a lot of you.

Which ward and which party?

I've worked with quite a few Councillors, some are good, some are bad and some are absolutely useless but I wont mention names I hope your son will be one of the good ones

[Margaret Pilkington]

Some start out good, but become affected by their perceived possession of power.....they THINK they are powerful, but they are not.....they forget where they have come from, they forget that their initial intention was to help others and in the end the serve themselves before their electors.