fly tipping promoted by HBC - Page 2

chav1 · 28-01-2005, 23:38

wheelie bins are to blame for the increase in fly tipping

its ok for a 2 person household to use wheelie bins under the current rules but once you got kids especialy babys you need more than 1 pick up every 2 weeks

the more people that fly tip the happier i will be because eventualy hydburn council would have to admit they were wrong and start clearing rubbish away weekly again

they would be upset if we only paid for 1 in every 2 weeks council tax

yeah i know some of you will be saying but were supposed to recycle well personaly i dont have room in my house for 2 bags for recycling, 1 huge box and my normal bin and anyway who the hell gave the council the right to demand i recycle

any over flow i have gets thrown down the back alley in a black bags ( making sure nothing with name and adress is in there)

yeah its wrong but if hyndburn council collected weekly i wouldnt have to do it and ime not alone in doing this hundreds of people in accy are doing it i was told by the rubbish inspector who then arranges it to be cleared up making a second visit needed which should be happening in the first place

feel free to condem me if you like but ime betting ime not the only one here doing this i would rather have a back alley stinking of rubbish than my kitchen the place where i preppare food for my family

fireman · 28-01-2005, 23:44

I agree but they expect us to follow their recycling rules but the conditions they place on that recycling make it very difficult. The green bin is not emptied in winter, but when do you prune all your shrubs back and when do you have tons of leaves in your garden. Its a real mess the whole issue.

WillowTheWhisp · 28-01-2005, 23:44

They empty my wheelie bin every week, the recycling they do every other week. It's usually full to the brim and I do recycle. We often have to take extras up to the tip.

All my bags and box and bin live in my back yard which severely limits the space because all I have for a back yard is a path to the gate and a bit round the bottom leading to what used to be the old binhole.

chav1 · 28-01-2005, 23:48

i threw out a load of brown cardboard boxes all flattened like they asked

i came home to find it all over my street and when i rang to complain i asked whi it hadnt been taken

oh we dont take brown cardboard in the bags they said

i asked well was it nessecary to throw it all over the street and i was told it was because they were probably looking for white paper

no reason given why they didnt pick up what they threw though

they also refuse to take glass milk bottles now claiming we should return them to the shop

ime betting a counciler has taken a back hander payment from the milk people because they loose money replacing bottles

much cheaper to bribe a counciler than replace hundreds of bottles each week i bet lol

fireman · 28-01-2005, 23:55

I filled my green bin with sod that I dug out when I put in a new path (GARDEN WASTE) I put the bin out and sat and watched because it was quite heavy. When they came the first man tried, and made some comment to his mates, two more came and looked, then the first hooked the bin up to the wagon and climbed up to examine what came out of the bin. Then they talk about jobsworth.

chav1 · 29-01-2005, 00:01

i once took an old monitor to the tip and was imidiatley asked if it works which it did i had just upgraded my monitor size and wanted rid of the old one

yes i replied and the guy smiled eagerly and took me over to a special pile where all the stuff that can be sold is stored i guess

put it there m8 he said so i threw it as hard as i could taking out a few items of his precious collection with the monitor and politly said oops its a good job all this stuff is rubbish

fireman · 29-01-2005, 00:04

Did you take it in your car a van or a trailer

WillowTheWhisp · 29-01-2005, 00:21

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Originally Posted by fireman

I agree but they expect us to follow their recycling rules but the conditions they place on that recycling make it very difficult. The green bin is not emptied in winter, but when do you prune all your shrubs back and when do you have tons of leaves in your garden. Its a real mess the whole issue.

That doesn't make sense.

I was told I can't have a green bin because I haven't got a garden. I've got this thing in front of my house with a tree and some shrubbery and stuff in but apparently that isn't a garden.

Now when I prune the bushy things in my non-garden I have a considerable amount of garden waste which I am not permitted to put in my wheelie bin, but as I don't have a bin for garden waste what am I supposed to do with it?

chav1 · 29-01-2005, 00:44

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Originally Posted by fireman

Did you take it in your car a van or a trailer

took it in my friends van but we parked outside and carried our bits in to avoid charge

i wonder how much liverpool and manchester are getting chared to tip as they send all their binwaggons to accy to be emptied

no point stinking up your own city when accy will take your waste

jelly baby · 29-01-2005, 11:11

A friend of mine (who, incidentally, works for HBC) rang them and asked them to remove a washer, they said they would come within 5 working days.

For security reasons she did not want to leave the back gate unlocked for all this time, so said she would put it outside her back gate for collection. She was then advised that this was fly-tipping and could result in a fine.
As the washer was neither impeding access, nor looking unsightly , how can this be called fly tipping, especially when she had informed the relevant departments of it's location?

fireman · 29-01-2005, 13:08

Why cant the tip authorities , instead of making all these stupid rules and conditions, reserve one day a week. maybe sunday for responsible people to dispose of their rubbish at the tip no matter how they choose to bring it in. Surely this would lighten the administrative load on the authority, and the workforce. This would also ensure that less commercial waste is taken as they would not be working.

Darby · 29-01-2005, 19:31

This is a load of rubbish.

The council must made made to have a consistent rule that applies to rubbish, and that the rules must be fair and reasonably applied.

I know I say this a lot, but in Germany, there are rules that cannot be broken. If the tip does nor accept your rubbish they must give you a signed and stamped document that says so. It prevents corruption, and stupid bureaurats applying the rules as they interpret them. The latest rule is that every houshold gets a set of coupons that can be applied to the amount and type of rubbish that can be disposed of.

For example 2 coupons for a cubic meter of carpet, 1 coupon for a chair etc., etc.

There are no arguements, and no discussions. either you have the coupons or you pay the disposal costs in cash!

park381 · 29-01-2005, 19:45

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Originally Posted by Darby

This is a load of rubbish.

The council must made made to have a consistent rule that applies to rubbish, and that the rules must be fair and reasonably applied.

I know I say this a lot, but in Germany, there are rules that cannot be broken. If the tip does nor accept your rubbish they must give you a signed and stamped document that says so. It prevents corruption, and stupid bureaurats applying the rules as they interpret them. The latest rule is that every houshold gets a set of coupons that can be applied to the amount and type of rubbish that can be disposed of.

For example 2 coupons for a cubic meter of carpet, 1 coupon for a chair etc., etc.

There are no arguements, and no discussions. either you have the coupons or you pay the disposal costs in cash!

That's fair enough, but they only thing I can say to that lot is, I'm glad I don't live in Germany................WOW
:engsmil: :engsmil: :engsmil:
Good job we have our recycling centre on Whinney Hill, you can take your household rubbish up there 7 days a week and the cost is.............zulch.............NOTHING
So why do people continue to "Fly Tip" sorry don't understand why they do it. I could say more but.............might get in to trouble with that one

chav1 · 29-01-2005, 20:12

hmm interesting theory about tokens but ime pretty sure refuse collection is part of the council tax bill so shouldnt they take rubbish away period...?

park381 · 29-01-2005, 20:45

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Originally Posted by chav1

pretty sure refuse collection is part of the council tax bill so shouldnt they take rubbish away period...?

Yes it is, thats Hyndburn we're talkin about, they also have a special collection service for all those things you can't get in the wheelie bin, cookers, fridges, freezers(note these now need de-gassing before disposal)furniture etc. May be the collection service takes anything up to 14 days to activate or collect, but they do collect...........sooner or later