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01-06-2006, 23:17
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For better or worse.
Sorry for rehashing the front page story of this weekend's Observer, but I found it incredibly sad.
An eighty year old war veteran has been legally stopped fron caring for his eighty five year old wife by Lancashire Social Services.
His wife was admitted to the Royal Infirmary after suffering a stroke, then transfered to an old people's home in Clayton. His wife now suffers from dementia, but once a week for the past six weeks he has taken her home for the day and cared for her without any problem.
He decided that he could give his wife the full time care she deserved better himself. He wants to cook her favourite food and play her favourite music which she apparently sings along to. He took her away from the home in a taxi only to have her returned to the home by the police, and she has been legally placed in the care of the home for six months and isn't allowed to go home.
Does the State via Social Services have the right to dictate what is best for this woman, or does the man who has been married to her for over fifty years not know what is best for his wife? For one thing it would be more cost effective for the State to let her be cared for at home.
Social Services seem more than able to let children be abused by their carers, as seen in quite a few well documented cases, but refuse to turn a blind eye and let a man care at home for the woman he so obviously loves.
If anybody tries to bung me in a home whilst I'm still able to care for myself, shoot me. On second thoughts shoot the buggers that are trying to bundle me into the van.
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Last edited by garinda; 01-06-2006 at 23:35.
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01-06-2006, 23:57
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Re: For better or worse.
pigs..... thats horrible..
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02-06-2006, 00:54
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Re: For better or worse.
social services = S.S
ring any bells anyone
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02-06-2006, 03:59
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It must be great to live in such a crime free place where the police have nothing better to do , they should be ashamed of themselves , amazing how there have been no news reports about the local politicians jumping through hoops to reunite this couple , guess the election season is over .
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02-06-2006, 04:19
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Re: For better or worse.
an article in the Evening Telegraph states ......
"A council spokeswoman said: "We have an obligation to protect vulnerable people who do not have the mental capacity to make an informed decision as to how their care needs should be met."
Who is this spokeswoman ? does she not have a name ? I thought politicians wanted open Govt. or is she afraid of her family finding out what a heartless bitch they have in the family .
sorry but this story makes me bloody angry
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02-06-2006, 05:29
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Re: For better or worse.
How very very sad...... This man is probably capable of providing care for his wife. Care can be provided at home with the help of social services and care agencies. I thought that the government's aim was to provide care for people in the community rather than coop people up in homes and hospitals. What a pathetic country we live in..
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02-06-2006, 05:52
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Re: For better or worse.
Quote:
Originally Posted by lettie
I thought that the government's aim was to provide care for people in the community rather than coop people up in homes and hospitals.
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Does it say which home she is in? Is it a private home or a DSS (or whoever) run home?
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02-06-2006, 05:59
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Re: For better or worse.
What a sad story and a reminder of just how much power faceless, heartless bureacracy seems to have in this country. Perhaps this man has a case under the Human Rights Act? Oh no, of course, I forgot, that's only for the benefit of criminals and terrorists.
Seriously, shouldn't local councillors or even Greg Pope be getting involved in this one?
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02-06-2006, 06:51
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Re: For better or worse.
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Originally Posted by Neil
Does it say which home she is in? Is it a private home or a DSS (or whoever) run home?
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I haven't got my paper yet so have not read the article. My guess is that if the SS has forcefully put her in a home then it will be a SS managed home..
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02-06-2006, 07:01
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02-06-2006, 07:07
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Re: For better or worse.
Its the Hollies in Clayton, a private home. With what these private homes charge each week I am not surprised they want to keep her I can't help think that some homes, maybe not this home, are only in it for the money and see the residents as pots of money.
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02-06-2006, 08:17
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Re: For better or worse.
It appears that some of the details I posted are incorrect such as the ladies age.(I'd given my copy of the Observer away by the time my electricity was back on.) However the jist of this sad story is correct.
According to the Observer the national press have picked up on this story. I sincerely hope that Social Services are shamed into giving this woman back into the care of the husband that wants to look after her.
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02-06-2006, 08:28
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Re: For better or worse.
It was in the Express or the Mail on Tuesday( can't remember which, I was reading it whilst waiting for physio at Beardwood)
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02-06-2006, 08:40
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Re: For better or worse.
.....and The Times gave it least half-page coverage on tuesday.
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02-06-2006, 08:41
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Re: For better or worse.
My grandad cared for my gran who had had several strokes into his 80's and only allowed here into a home when he couldnt cope. He spent nearly every day at the home with her right up to his death. Breaking people of of this age apart after a life time together should be a last resort. Is it cheaper for the SS to have them in a home than being in her own home with external support?
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