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Old 11-10-2008, 19:25   #31
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I doubt Kate has gravity hot water. It is more than likely fully pumped with either a single pipe flow return like mine is or seperate flow and return pipes running around the house. I have all TRV's and no bypass because it is a single pipe system.
Again, wow it sounds very much like a Gas Board job of many years ago. Are the primary circs to your cylinder 15mm.



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Old 11-10-2008, 19:43   #32
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I do know about several plumbing methods, I just don't want to change mine, even though mine is terrible at the moment.

I suppose working for Baxi I must have learnt a bit
Baxi, who are they...................get in to the real world...ACV, Broag, Stokvis

Plumbing methods...........do you mean plastic pipes

Wish I had a £ for every job I had designed, what about you Neil, how many jobs have you designed


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Old 11-10-2008, 19:47   #33
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Again, wow it sounds very much like a Gas Board job of many years ago. Are the primary circs to your cylinder 15mm.
Nope 3/4" and 22mm

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A company in Preston I enjoyed working for (in the main anyway )

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Old 11-10-2008, 19:52   #34
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It all depends on the plumber at the time and 35 years ago when it was first installed
If it had been installed 35 years ago, there would have been 2 circuits from the boiler.
Circuit 1 - Gravity primary hot water circuit including cold feed and expansion. This circuit would have been 1" or 28mm ( will draw it for you if wish)
Circuit 2 - This would be the heating circuit, complete with circulating pump, this circuit would have been 3/4" or 22mm.


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Old 11-10-2008, 19:54   #35
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Nope 3/4" and 22mm



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Old 11-10-2008, 20:19   #36
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If it had been installed 35 years ago, there would have been 2 circuits from the boiler.
Circuit 1 - Gravity primary hot water circuit including cold feed and expansion. This circuit would have been 1" or 28mm ( will draw it for you if wish)
Circuit 2 - This would be the heating circuit, complete with circulating pump, this circuit would have been 3/4" or 22mm.


The gravity hot water would only have been used if the pipe runs were not too far from the boiler to the hot water cylinder.

Even worse my cylinder is a primatic one with the magic air bubble
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Old 16-10-2008, 10:54   #37
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So as Neil suggests something it is OK but when I suggest something it is not. That does show your jumping on the bandwagon bias. To quote what has been quoted at me a number of times
First of all Neil started this thread to let people know about these devices not for you to just come on and give negative comments about them and to disagree. Why not make your own thread about these items to disagree instead of wrecking a perfectly helpful thread?

Secondly im not quoting a copy of what people have said because ive jumped on the "bandwagon" , its just my opinion and if people keep on quoting the same thing does this not mean anything?!
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The gravity hot water would only have been used if the pipe runs were not too far from the boiler to the hot water cylinder.
Boiler ground floor, cylinder first floor in cupboard, complete with cold feed and open vent connections
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Will give you that one,why not change it for an albion superduty type cylinder, or better still a Heatrae Sadia Megaflo, you could have a power shower then
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Will give you that one,why not change it for an albion superduty type cylinder, or better still a Heatrae Sadia Megaflo, you could have a power shower then
They cost money - quite a lot of money no doubt or I might. I might get decent hot water flow as well then
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They cost money - quite a lot of money no doubt or I might. I might get decent hot water flow as well then
Why not go green and replace your boiler for one of the New Combi boilers that Baxi/Potterton are now manufacturing. Think of all the energy you would save, the pay back period would not be all that long
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Old 27-10-2008, 14:41   #41
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I dont know how much the original units were as they are no longer available, however Maplin & others seem to sell similar units for a tenner.

Although these do not show the use of the equipment that is hard wired/overall.
I think I want one of these so I can tell what the kids PC use is costing us
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Old 27-10-2008, 14:50   #42
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Dispatches did a very interesting programme about energy suppliers and trying to make savings last week. Very enlightening
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Old 27-10-2008, 15:36   #43
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I watched that, it was especially frightening to see that the 3 boys spending only 4 hours a day on computers, xbox's etc used £300+ of leccygogo a year.

I have 3 kids spending between 6-9 hours a day.

I want a meter or 3

(I wonder if I can get hold of some freebie ordinary leccy meters & wire them up, one for each kids bedroom lol).
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