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01-09-2013, 10:28
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Re: Fracking Blackpool
its a disaster waiting to happen
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01-09-2013, 10:38
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Re: Fracking Blackpool
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The article says a salt mine cavern collapsed
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01-09-2013, 14:45
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Re: Fracking Blackpool
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The article says a salt mine cavern collapsed
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yes but along with many louisianions I'm questioning if the root cause of the collapse was due to fracking.
anyway the fracking operations must put pressure on any underground caverns mining or natural
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01-09-2013, 17:45
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Re: Fracking Blackpool
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yes but along with many louisianions I'm questioning if the root cause of the collapse was due to fracking.
anyway the fracking operations must put pressure on any underground caverns mining or natural
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exactly.
fracking is bad news if you live in the same area as the drilling.
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01-09-2013, 18:01
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Re: Fracking Blackpool
I'm in two minds about Fracking. As someone born and bred in Cleveleys and Fleetwood, the horror stories do concern me, but on closer examination, most don't stand up to scrutiny.
The big plus for the area is in terms of jobs. Think the job situation in East Lancs is bad? The Fylde Coast's job situation is worse. There's very little industry and most of the jobs are in the service sector which is heavily seasonal and in the Civil Service which is getting smaller by the week.
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01-09-2013, 18:55
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Re: Fracking Blackpool
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I'm in two minds about Fracking. As someone born and bred in Cleveleys and Fleetwood, the horror stories do concern me, but on closer examination, most don't stand up to scrutiny.
The big plus for the area is in terms of jobs. Think the job situation in East Lancs is bad? The Fylde Coast's job situation is worse. There's very little industry and most of the jobs are in the service sector which is heavily seasonal and in the Civil Service which is getting smaller by the week.
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On the contrary,
the more you look beyond the headlines and the responses from the fracking companies and frackig pressure groups, the more dangerous it gets.
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01-09-2013, 20:46
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Re: Fracking Blackpool
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I'm in two minds about Fracking. As someone born and bred in Cleveleys and Fleetwood, the horror stories do concern me, but on closer examination, most don't stand up to scrutiny.
The big plus for the area is in terms of jobs. Think the job situation in East Lancs is bad? The Fylde Coast's job situation is worse. There's very little industry and most of the jobs are in the service sector which is heavily seasonal and in the Civil Service which is getting smaller by the week.
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really!!!! try this link for evidence
Hydraulic Fracturing Fluids Likely Harmed Threatened Kentucky Fish Species | Aleklett's Energy Mix
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01-09-2013, 21:13
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Re: Fracking Blackpool
Reading that its evidence its "Likely" killed fish, nothing more n that as i can see.
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02-09-2013, 07:50
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Re: Fracking Blackpool
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its a disaster waiting to happen
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So is your mouth
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02-09-2013, 12:36
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Re: Fracking Blackpool
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Reading that its evidence its "Likely" killed fish, nothing more n that as i can see.
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com on cashy it's not the west looking for an excuse to invade Iraq this is a
survey by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service and "Likely" is a term used when when the evidence points to a cause but can not be proved to be 100% certain
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02-09-2013, 14:43
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Re: Fracking Blackpool
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Originally Posted by accybeme
com on cashy it's not the west looking for an excuse to invade Iraq this is a
survey by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service and "Likely" is a term used when when the evidence points to a cause but can not be proved to be 100% certain
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I can accept its probably killed the fish, but that is nowt like causing earthquakes or owt like that, as far as i can see. plus i can't see any claim of that?? to put it bluntly, don't really give a stuff about the fish.
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02-09-2013, 15:12
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Re: Fracking Blackpool
We need the gas more than we need some 'small, colourful minnows'.
Russia has shown what it will do to gas supplies to countries it disagrees with- and we're not getting on well with Russia.
Bulk delivery gas tanker ships from the Middle East and Morocco- how vulnerable and unreliable can you get? If Syria detonates the Mediterranean there goes a lot of our gas and oil.
We're running out of our own gas and oil( it never covered us 100% even on full flow.)
We've signed up to green policies we can't meet, so we're shutting down the coal power stations, we have only one potential nuclear station supplier left and they want such exorbitant terms we'll have to sit in the dark. Before one is switched on(a rolling ten years) we'll run out anyway- invest now in a candle company
Renewable energy- how many windless days have we had during this lovely summer? Too many to keep your fridge running on green energy even if we covered every field with turbines- and we couldn't afford that electricity either.
In the UK the fracking companies are obliged to declare what goes in the fluid and we are preparing more stringent rules than the US has.
I have no fears of fracking, people forget we have been fracking in the UK since the 60's and no-one even noticed.
We need it desperately, the sooner we get it on stream the better.
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02-09-2013, 15:19
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Re: Fracking Blackpool
To be honest i am neither For nor Against fracking, i do not believe enough is known one way or the other,but after having lived to pension age, listening to do-gooders/p.c brigaders/ etc etc, i am leaning much further towards in favour of fracking, cos i'm thoughly sick of listening to those who tell me they know best.
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02-09-2013, 15:29
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Re: Fracking Blackpool
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Originally Posted by Gordon Booth
We need the gas more than we need some 'small, colourful minnows'.
Russia has shown what it will do to gas supplies to countries it disagrees with- and we're not getting on well with Russia.
Bulk delivery gas tanker ships from the Middle East and Morocco- how vulnerable and unreliable can you get? If Syria detonates the Mediterranean there goes a lot of our gas and oil.
We're running out of our own gas and oil( it never covered us 100% even on full flow.)
We've signed up to green policies we can't meet, so we're shutting down the coal power stations, we have only one potential nuclear station supplier left and they want such exorbitant terms we'll have to sit in the dark. Before one is switched on(a rolling ten years) we'll run out anyway- invest now in a candle company
Renewable energy- how many windless days have we had during this lovely summer? Too many to keep your fridge running on green energy even if we covered every field with turbines- and we couldn't afford that electricity either.
In the UK the fracking companies are obliged to declare what goes in the fluid and we are preparing more stringent rules than the US has.
I have no fears of fracking, people forget we have been fracking in the UK since the 60's and no-one even noticed.
We need it desperately, the sooner we get it on stream the better.
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I also think the gas is needed, those against, as was proved by the answer to Cashy, will take 'likely' to mean the Gospel. They get their NHS teeth into an idea and won't allow any other opinion to be the correct way forward.
Yes, there will be problems with fracking, but nowhere near as bad as they claim.
However, to be honest, I find your above post to be borderline screams of ill thought out blind side that gives no-one of sense anything worth reading, unfortunately.
You and they could be twins!
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02-09-2013, 17:19
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Re: Fracking Blackpool
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Originally Posted by Less
I also think the gas is needed, those against, as was proved by the answer to Cashy, will take 'likely' to mean the Gospel. They get their NHS teeth into an idea and won't allow any other opinion to be the correct way forward.
Yes, there will be problems with fracking, but nowhere near as bad as they claim.
However, to be honest, I find your above post to be borderline screams of ill thought out blind side that gives no-one of sense anything worth reading, unfortunately.
You and they could be twins!
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my my it must be hot in Boloxnia having a bad hairday
please don't throw insults at me because you happen to disagree with something I posted everyone should be allowed to express an opinion
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