Frogs boot out Roma - Page 2

Ken Moss · 21-08-2010, 08:46

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Originally Posted by jaysay

Think I can agree with you there Ken, I just wonder why we can't ship these people out instead of housing them in centres so they can appeal against deportation on legal aid funded by British Tax payers, before disappearing into the countryside never to be seen again

Regrettably John, the legal and political ins-and-outs of such things are way above the level of a humble local functionary such as myself.

My watchword for everything in this life is 'get your own house in order first' and it seems to be echoed by the masses but who are we to say what goes on in England?

cashman · 21-08-2010, 08:50

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Originally Posted by Ken Moss

Regrettably John, the legal and political ins-and-outs of such things are way above the level of a humble local functionary such as myself.

My watchword for everything in this life is 'get your own house in order first' and it seems to be echoed by the masses but who are we to say what goes on in England?

Exactly the reason i gave up wi these ******* ken. simple as.

jaysay · 21-08-2010, 08:51

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Originally Posted by Ken Moss

Regrettably John, the legal and political ins-and-outs of such things are way above the level of a humble local functionary such as myself.

My watchword for everything in this life is 'get your own house in order first' and it seems to be echoed by the masses but who are we to say what goes on in England?

Quite right Ken I have always maintained that we are using laws designed for the 17 century in the 21st, its time we had a bonfire on Parliament Square of all the legal books and start a fresh with laws which are applicable to today and the future

jaysay · 21-08-2010, 08:54

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Originally Posted by Ken Moss

Regrettably John, the legal and political ins-and-outs of such things are way above the level of a humble local functionary such as myself.

My watchword for everything in this life is 'get your own house in order first' and it seems to be echoed by the masses but who are we to say what goes on in England?

Just another thing too, why don't we reform Parliament along the way, all this pomp with Black Rod banging on the door at the STATE OPENING is a load of crap and a waste of time in my eyes, a simple, parliament is now open, lets get to, it would suffice

Tealeaf · 21-08-2010, 09:05

The problem we have here, Ken, is the human rights industry. It's growth rate over the last 20 years or so has been substantially greater even than that of financial services or IT; there is now not a high street within the UK that does not have some legal firm offering 'immigration advice' or similar.

If only this was all exportable then the position would not be too bad; but of course it is not, because this industry is 100% dependent upon public subsidy. We may readily purchase French cheese, but can you imagine the Frogs purchasing British human rights lawyers? I think not.

What is particularly sickening about these characters is the way they will wring their hands as they plead how their criminal clients' rights will be abused, should they be returned to so-and so, while taking no account of the rights of their victims here.At the end of the day they then pick up a nice, juicy taxpayer's cheque. If lawyers do want to do this work, then stop public funding and let them do it as a matter of principle, or as they say in the legal trade, 'pro bono'. Then we shall see how long this industry will survive.

Ken Moss · 21-08-2010, 09:05

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Originally Posted by jaysay

Just another thing too, why don't we reform Parliament along the way, all this pomp with Black Rod banging on the door at the STATE OPENING is a load of crap and a waste of time in my eyes, a simple, parliament is now open, lets get to, it would suffice

Ah, there I disagree. Ceremonies like that are the building blocks of English heritage which have been in place for hundreds of years.

We've got enough people trying to erode our culture without having a go at it ourselves.

jaysay · 21-08-2010, 09:13

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Originally Posted by Ken Moss

Ah, there I disagree. Ceremonies like that are the building blocks of English heritage which have been in place for hundreds of years.

We've got enough people trying to erode our culture without having a go at it ourselves.

I'm not saying do away with all ceremonies, but come on Ken the state opening of Parliament is a lot of tosh really, everybody wandering from the Commons to the Lords to here the queen make a speech written by the government, ged on wi it

Ken Moss · 21-08-2010, 09:23

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Originally Posted by jaysay

I'm not saying do away with all ceremonies, but come on Ken the state opening of Parliament is a lot of tosh really, everybody wandering from the Commons to the Lords to here the queen make a speech written by the government, ged on wi it

It's possibly not the most exciting thing in the world but it is an ancient English tradition, we've got precious of them few left that the PC brgade haven't ruined!

I'd rather abolish proper trash like The Jeremy Kyle Show or populist tripe such as The X-Factor which I see is making a return this evening.

I'll be out.

jaysay · 21-08-2010, 10:05

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Originally Posted by Ken Moss

It's possibly not the most exciting thing in the world but it is an ancient English tradition, we've got precious of them few left that the PC brgade haven't ruined!

I'd rather abolish proper trash like The Jeremy Kyle Show or populist tripe such as The X-Factor which I see is making a return this evening.

I'll be out.

Well unfortunately I can't go out, but I do have a remote control

MargaretR · 21-08-2010, 10:23

I have no respect for France's attitude to 'foreigners'.
They colonised Haiti and enslaved the population, exploited the natural resources, then when the slaves successfully revolted the French demanded billions in 'compen' for losing access to those resources. That is bullying - just as they are doing now.
So they think that they are being invaded by Roma -so what? In my view the bullies are getting 'karma payback'

BBC News - France urged to repay Haiti's huge 'independence debt'
"The 'independence debt', which is today valued at over 17bn euros illegitimately forced a people who had won their independence in a successful slave revolt, to pay again for the freedom,"

cashman · 21-08-2010, 10:29

Aint a matter of respecting France, they are doing bloody right simple as.

DaveinGermany · 22-08-2010, 10:06

My views on the French, I believe are well understood but in this instance (along with the Burka/Niquab) the French Government actually seem to be listening to their people. Now whether you agree or not doesn't really matter, what is important is that those elected are seen to be listening & acting upon their voters requests,(which I seem to recall was the reason for putting people into power) if only those values could be transferred to our present incumbents what a happy land we'd be.

Tealeaf · 22-08-2010, 10:12

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Originally Posted by MargaretR

So they think that they are being invaded by Roma -so what? In my view the bullies are getting 'karma payback'

I take it from this, Margaret, that you will be putting up a couple of Roma families when they turn up in Accy.

MargaretR · 22-08-2010, 10:52

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf

I take it from this, Margaret, that you will be putting up a couple of Roma families when they turn up in Accy.

I don't have sympathy for the Roma people - so 'no'.

The point I was making is - any 'damaging' behaviour by persons, and nations, has repercussions.

ie. - you get back what you give out.

The fact that France is having a problem with 'invaders' is somewhat ironic

Eric · 24-08-2010, 18:39

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Originally Posted by Ken Moss

Ah, there I disagree. Ceremonies like that are the building blocks of English heritage which have been in place for hundreds of years.

We've got enough people trying to erode our culture without having a go at it ourselves.

Agree with you on this .... I think that you and I are a tad more conservative, in a positive sense, than is Jaysay.

. I think that the only things that Conservatives wish to conserve are their positions of privelege. No doubt, they would like to return to the days of The Anarchy, which gave rise to the rule of law.