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19-08-2010, 14:28
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Frogs boot out Roma
Generally speaking, I have no time for our Gallic friends south of the Channel. However, I am now starting to develop a sneaky admiration for the way in which they put their own citizens first and completely ignore any of this european human rights nonsense.
Today, our garlic-munching chums began to implement the policy of expelling Roma (aka gypos or travellers) back to their country of origin, mainly Rumania and Bulgaria. These characters have formed squatter camps all over the place and as such crime rates have rocketed wherever they are to be found.
I saw a similar picture of our East European neighbours in Peterborough only the other week...camps set up in parks, by roadsides...even in the middle of a roundabout. What do we do about it? Absolutely nowt. And it is the same with our traveller friends who frequently visit Hyndburn, many of them from Southern Ireland. We can't even move them on - never mind kick 'em out the country. I think the last excuse in Church was that one of 'em was waiting for a hospital appointment.
The first planeloads left France today. Good news for the French, but I have a suspicion that they won't be in their home country for long but will shortly be turning up in merry England. What will we do? Probably give them housing, welfare, medical care and of course, legal aid to avoid expulsion.
Lets see what happens.
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19-08-2010, 17:59
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Re: Frogs boot out Roma
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Originally Posted by Tealeaf
Generally speaking, I have no time for our Gallic friends south of the Channel. However, I am now starting to develop a sneaky admiration for the way in which they put their own citizens first and completely ignore any of this european human rights nonsense.
Today, our garlic-munching chums began to implement the policy of expelling Roma (aka gypos or travellers) back to their country of origin, mainly Rumania and Bulgaria. These characters have formed squatter camps all over the place and as such crime rates have rocketed wherever they are to be found.
I saw a similar picture of our East European neighbours in Peterborough only the other week...camps set up in parks, by roadsides...even in the middle of a roundabout. What do we do about it? Absolutely nowt. And it is the same with our traveller friends who frequently visit Hyndburn, many of them from Southern Ireland. We can't even move them on - never mind kick 'em out the country. I think the last excuse in Church was that one of 'em was waiting for a hospital appointment.
The first planeloads left France today. Good news for the French, but I have a suspicion that they won't be in their home country for long but will shortly be turning up in merry England. What will we do? Probably give them housing, welfare, medical care and of course, legal aid to avoid expulsion.
Lets see what happens.
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Good grief Tealeaf I find myself agreeing with ya for a change
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19-08-2010, 18:02
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Re: Frogs boot out Roma
well never much cared fer the Frogs meself, but good on em.
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19-08-2010, 18:07
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Re: Frogs boot out Roma
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Good grief Tealeaf I find myself agreeing with ya for a change
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Me Too!
Best Regards - Taggy
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19-08-2010, 18:13
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Re: Frogs boot out Roma
I think we should treat the Human rights act with the same disregard the Fenchies have for it and look after our own folk first.
It is the same with everything, the continentals seem to interpret the rules differently and seem not to be penalised in any way...the Brits follow the rules to the letter, and what do we get?.......a country that is full of undesirables.
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19-08-2010, 18:27
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Re: Frogs boot out Roma
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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington
I think we should treat the Human rights act with the same disregard the Franchise have for it and look after our own folk first.
It is the same with everything, the continentals seem to interpret the rules differently and seem not to be penalised in any way...the Brits follow the rules to the letter, and what do we get?.......a country that is full of undesirables.
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Its the British trait of the stiff upper lip and a sense of Fair Play Margaret, which is always held above everything else, that may have been great when Britain was at the forefront of world order, but its now time to say enough is enough, and take a leaf out of every begger else in the European union, and tell um up yours sunshine and on your bike
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19-08-2010, 18:33
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Re: Frogs boot out Roma
Well done the French.
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19-08-2010, 21:12
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Re: Frogs boot out Roma
The French have a history of this sort of thing. I wonder how many of the ones doing the booting out are the grandchildren and great grandchildren of the French who collaborated with the Germans in order to get rid of the Jews. And these are the same Germans who refused to leave France until the British, Americans and Canadians kicked their asses back to what the Russians left of Berlin
I had a chat with a Brit the other day (not surprisingly in a pub). He wants to move to Canada; but, he is overwhelmed by the hoops he will have to jump through to get in .... And here's one for Jaysay. Over here it's the tories who are super tough on immigration. I guess the bottom line is: if you don't have the cash to support yourself, or you don't have skills we need, you don't get in. Well, not legally anyway. There are, of course, exceptions. Haitians got a break, and thousands moved to Quebec (it's a French thing). Race, religion, nationality are not an issue.
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19-08-2010, 21:22
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Re: Frogs boot out Roma
Eric, am I right in saying a boat has just turned up on the west coast of Canada with about 400 so-called Tamil asylum seekers on board?
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19-08-2010, 21:27
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Re: Frogs boot out Roma
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Eric, am I right in saying a boat has just turned up on the west coast of Canada with about 400 so-called Tamil asylum seekers on board?
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Well if 1 has T, it sure as hell won't have sailed from Dover.
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19-08-2010, 21:38
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Re: Frogs boot out Roma
No...all the way across the Indian and Pacific Oceans (But India being 50 miles away from the start point),
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20-08-2010, 19:17
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Re: Frogs boot out Roma
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Eric, am I right in saying a boat has just turned up on the west coast of Canada with about 400 so-called Tamil asylum seekers on board?
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Just been reading about this as I sat on the flush with my morning coffee, and a copy of the local rag: The Whig-(Sub)Standard. At present the rules go something like this: All of the so-called refugee claimants, some of whom paid up to $50, 000 to get here, were immediately detained ... that's ok, 'cause we got nice jails with great views of beautiful British Columbia ... Each claim for refugee status will be judged on its merits. And to be a refugee, Immigration Canada has to be convinced that a claimant faces death, torture, or having to watch re-runs of Oprah, if he is returned to Sri Lanka. However, if it is proven that a claimant is, or has been a member of the Tamil Tigers then he will be incarcerated because the Tigers are a terrorist organization.
Also in the Whig, which is now somewhere in my recycling box, were the results of a poll which suggest that over 60% stated that any refugee ship approaching Canada should be stopped in our territorial waters and escorted back to where it came from by the Royal Candian Navy. About 25% didn't give a damn, or asked for a beer, and the rest said they should be granted refugee status. Poll results here are shown region by region: respondents in Quebec and Alberta are more likely to want them escorted home without setting foot here ... I think the figure in Alberta was 74%.
Me ... I'm for sending them home.
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21-08-2010, 08:19
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Re: Frogs boot out Roma
The French model for a quite a few things is beginning to seem like far better common sense than we have in England, fair play to them for getting their own house in order first.
It strikes me a rather bizarre that certain immigrants are eager to flock over here for a better way of life but then seek to replicate what they had back home by crying 'racism' at the first opportunity and being staunchly patriotic.
Or is my perception filter on the blink again?
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21-08-2010, 08:20
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Re: Frogs boot out Roma
aint on the blink Ken, its bang on.
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21-08-2010, 08:39
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Re: Frogs boot out Roma
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Originally Posted by Ken Moss
The French model for a quite a few things is beginning to seem like far better common sense than we have in England, fair play to them for getting their own house in order first.
It strikes me a rather bizarre that certain immigrants are eager to flock over here for a better way of life but then seek to replicate what they had back home by crying 'racism' at the first opportunity and being staunchly patriotic.
Or is my perception filter on the blink again?
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Think I can agree with you there Ken, I just wonder why we can't ship these people out instead of housing them in centres so they can appeal against deportation on legal aid funded by British Tax payers, before disappearing into the countryside never to be seen again
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