Full Council - 22nd September 2011 - Page 2

gynn · 25-09-2011, 00:56

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Originally Posted by Neil

We don't want it to look like a small child filmed it with a web cam.

Isn't that exactly what the walkout looked like? All that were missing were the toys and the pram.

Neil · 25-09-2011, 03:07

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Originally Posted by gynn

Isn't that exactly what the walkout looked like? All that were missing were the toys and the pram.

I mentioned elsewhere I can't comment without knowing the reason for the walkout and if this is the usual way to protest in these meetings.

gynn · 25-09-2011, 06:58

It would be interesting to know what happened between 18th July, when the senior members of the Conservative Group agreed proposals for Local Democracy Week (which included the visit of the MEP to the Council meeting) with the Leader of the council at the Leaders Policy Development Board (see item 5)

http://www.hyndburnbc.gov.uk/downloa..._July_2011.pdf

and last week when they led a walkout of Conservative members at Council.

Ken Moss · 26-09-2011, 16:13

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Originally Posted by Neil

I think you would get more viewers if it was not live but available to view on the Council website. Would that be cheaper?

Is podcasting just voice? I think thats a bad idea personally. I like to put faces to names.

For the £40k would it be live only or able to view whenever.

It would be nice if I could find minutes online of past meetings.
Are they all available and I am having trouble finding them?

Podcasting is just audio and would be considerably cheaper. The idea was mooted within the Labour members about approaching one of the local colleges to see if their students would be interested in working with the council on such a scheme.

With webcasting, the footage would be archived online for viewing at any time although with finances the way they are I suspect that Cabinet would not be prepared to find £40k for it at the present time. It must be stressed that no one seems particularly against the idea, at least not within the Labour group.

The previous minutes of full council can be found here:

Council

Neil · 26-09-2011, 17:13

Thank you for the info Ken. Is the £40k hosting cost or recording cost?

Ken Moss · 26-09-2011, 17:14

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Originally Posted by Neil

Thank you for the info Ken. Is the £40k hosting cost or recording cost?

As I understand it, that is the full cost per year for everything.

davemac · 29-09-2011, 13:46

I think filming coucil procedings is an excelent idea, it works for parliament, i watch it on a regular basis especialy PMQ'S.

How do we get £40,000 to film say 12 meetings per year, thats around £3500 per session, you could have it chiseled in granit for that

Tealeaf · 29-09-2011, 14:42

If some clown from the AO can do it for nowt, then I don't see why some of the kids from A & R college can come down, film it and bung it on U tube for a similar amount.

lancsdave · 29-09-2011, 14:48

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Originally Posted by davemac

How do we get £40,000 to film say 12 meetings per year, thats around £3500 per session, you could have it chiseled in granit for that

£1,000 for the filimg and £39k for processing the paperwork to get the tenders in

Neil · 29-09-2011, 15:15

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf

If some clown from the AO can do it for nowt, then I don't see why some of the kids from A & R college can come down, film it and bung it on U tube for a similar amount.

I would expect better quality if posted by the council that the iphoned clip posted above.

Bernard Dawson · 29-09-2011, 15:30

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Originally Posted by davemac

I think filming coucil procedings is an excelent idea, it works for parliament, i watch it on a regular basis especialy PMQ'S.

How do we get £40,000 to film say 12 meetings per year, thats around £3500 per session, you could have it chiseled in granit for that

We only have 6 full Council meetings a year now. If anyone wants to see what we get up to they can always come and sit in the gallery.

Tealeaf · 29-09-2011, 15:51

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Originally Posted by Bernard Dawson

We only have 6 full Council meetings a year now. If anyone wants to see what we get up to they can always come and sit in the gallery.

A full council meeting is the supreme local legislative authority within the borough.

6 full council meetings each year = 18 hours.

On average, how much does each councillor take home for his/her services?

What does this translate into at an hourly rate, given 18 hours per annum?

lancsdave · 29-09-2011, 15:51

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Originally Posted by Bernard Dawson

We only have 6 full Council meetings a year now. If anyone wants to see what we get up to they can always come and sit in the gallery.

Are members of the public allowed to walk out at any time or do they have to be a member of the Conservative Party ?

Gayle · 29-09-2011, 15:52

How on earth can it cost £40k to record 6 meetings a year and bung them online?

Allowing for an officers time to be at the meetings - say 4hrs a time - 24 hours.
Then adding a couple of days each time for editing and putting online - 8 hours x 12 - 76 hours.
So 100 hours officer time at £10 maximum = £1,000.

Buying a fairly decent camera and tripod - £1,000.

If it was to be put on the council's own website I suppose you could add something for extra bandwidth but you could stick them on youtube at no cost.

All in all, you could do it easily for under £3k, I reckon.

Bernard Dawson · 29-09-2011, 16:00

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf

A full council meeting is the supreme local legislative authority within the borough.

6 full council meetings each year = 18 hours.

On average, how much does each councillor take home for his/her services?

What does this translate into at an hourly rate, given 18 hours per annum?

Attending full Council meetings is very small part of the work Councillors do.