gas and electric

[Neil]

Originally Posted by Bonnyboy

New PVC doors at our house, they stop the draughts well enough I don’t think they prevent heat transfer from the outside as well as a wooden door tho.

Wood is supposed to be a better insulator than PVC. All these draught free air tight UPVC houses are blamed for so called sick house syndrome.

[Mancie]

It's a rip off.. someone is making a lot of money out of power and food price increases.. they never had these problems in the old Soviet Union.. communism is the only way to beat these capitalist demons!

[Benipete]

Originally Posted by Mancie

It's a rip off.. someone is making a lot of money out of power and food price increases.. they never had these problems in the old Soviet Union.. communism is the only way to beat these capitalist demons!

I really think you should go into politics.I can see it now comrad.
The old will die the fit will eat the family pet and I will buy a Football Club In Europe.

[Mancie]

The old do not get left to die.. comrade.. they are ultimate reason for a communist state.. the old..looking after the infirm ,and our sick brovfas n sistas are the ultimate challenge to a "civilised cuture"!

[Benipete]

Originally Posted by Mancie

The old do not get left to die.. comrade.. they are ultimate reason for a communist state.. the old..looking after the infirm ,and our sick brovfas n sistas are the ultimate challenge to a "civilised cuture"!

Silly me you're doing impressions and i didn't realise thinking of going back to colledge to improve my spelling and lack of intelligence hope i can improve my input

[accyman]

so in theory if we use as much gas and electric as we can while its still at the lower price we could in theory damage the ozone layer even more which in turn will accelorate global warming which in turn should in theory make winters warmer so we wont need to use as much of the expensive gas and electricity when the rises take effect ?

[Mancie]

Originally Posted by Benipete

Silly me you're doing impressions and i didn't realise thinking of going back to colledge to improve my spelling and lack of intelligence hope i can improve my input

yeah silly you..not to worry eh!

[Benipete]

Originally Posted by accyman

so in theory if we use as much gas and electric as we can while its still at the lower price we could in theory damage the ozone layer even more which in turn will accelorate global warming which in turn should in theory make winters warmer so we wont need to use as much of the expensive gas and electricity when the rises take effect ?

Exactamento.My thoughts also>But since the massive SAVE IT campaign in the 70's I have had a change of mind.For example the more you save - the less they make so the price goes up so you pay the same.You are but a pawn in a game and there are 150 thousand,(estimated) Civil Servants) running round Westminster with bits of paper in their hands keeping you where you belong.By the way with all this global warming it's raining again and my heatings come on.
Need to adjust the fiddle

[polly]

Originally Posted by Bonnyboy

Unfortunately they seem to be on about a 40% increase for this years winter…possibly, could, maybe. Most likely headline grabbing, at least I hope so.

The BBC run the story like this

The TimesOnline like this

I am sure there is some 'headline grabbing going on, but there must be some truth too it. Even if we assume they are only 1/2 right it means rises of 25 %.
I doubt that some people will be able to manage.
Also because people are aware of these huge increases in expenditure they are already cutting back and the economy is bound to suffer. I am certainly glad I am not an estate agent at the moment!

One of the problems we have is that our central heating boiler is in the kitchen and pumps out loads of heat making the kitchen sometimes unbearable. Obviously this is wasted heated which we could do with transferring next door to the lounge. anyone any practical ideas?

[Benipete]

Is it a combi

[Mancie]

Never a frown eh.. Gordon Brown... ah I mean Golden Brown

[derekgas]

Originally Posted by polly

I am sure there is some 'headline grabbing going on, but there must be some truth too it. Even if we assume they are only 1/2 right it means rises of 25 %.
I doubt that some people will be able to manage.
Also because people are aware of these huge increases in expenditure they are already cutting back and the economy is bound to suffer. I am certainly glad I am not an estate agent at the moment!

One of the problems we have is that our central heating boiler is in the kitchen and pumps out loads of heat making the kitchen sometimes unbearable. Obviously this is wasted heated which we could do with transferring next door to the lounge. anyone any practical ideas?

It sounds like you should have an air vent to dissipate the heat, lagging the pipes will also help, but if the boiler is an old one, you probably wont have it too long, and the new one wont give out lots of heat from the casing, and probably wont be in the kitchen either.

[Mick]

In the end we all need gas and electric and will pay up.

[derekgas]

As said in a previous post, energy bills went up 70% last year, and forecast another 30% this year, up until now I have had issues with renewable energy sources because it took so long to reap the rewards, but as by this time next year, the savings will be 100% more than last year, it is becoming a very viable option, we are (after years of suppliers pushing renewable energy) now training people at work in renewable enrgy installation, I guarantee that some people here will have at least had to consider renewable sources by 2010, one of the biggest sellers in the heating market at the moment is multifuel stoves, I think this is just the start.

[polly]

Originally Posted by Benipete

Is it a combi

It is a Glow Worm Hideaway (though it dosnt do much hiding and it can be very noisy)