gay adoption - Page 7

slinky · 27-01-2007, 01:51

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Originally Posted by steeljack

anything that gives a child a good home I have no problem with

Exactly!!!!

no matter what colour,religion,background or sexuality people are from.......everyone has the right to be a parent......and it's what they do with those privileges that count.

Ianto.W. · 27-01-2007, 01:55

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Originally Posted by steeljack

anything that gives a child a good home I have no problem with

Ten out of ten for that steejack, you'll not get many to disagree with that statement.

slinky · 27-01-2007, 02:04

It's a shame there are so many prejudice people knocking about.

As long as it isn't harming anyone else!!! what the hell has it got to do with the PC brigade.

HMMMMMMMMMM maybe because the PC Brigade rule this bloody country now on WHAT people should and shouldn'tt be doing.

Freedom of speech

Freedom of choice....................... whatever!!! It's a shambles.

too many cheifs and not enough Indians I say.........

steeljack · 27-01-2007, 02:06

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Originally Posted by jambutty

The law is the law, is the law and should apply to all citizens of the land without fear or favour. FULL STOP!

Where this issue has gone all wrong is allowing homosexual couples to adopt in the first place.

Before you start hurling brick bats at me just hear me out.

OK! Fire away!

Wow , Jambo .......20 yrs in the Queens Navy , (how did Churchill describe it ...Rum Sodomy and the Lash ) I thought you would be a bit more gay tolerant

slinky · 27-01-2007, 02:12

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Originally Posted by steeljack

Wow , Jambo .......20 yrs in the Queens Navy , (how did Churchill describe it ...Rum Sodomy and the Lash ) I thought you would be a bit more gay tolerant

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LMAO!!!!!!!!!! I can see what you mean

roflmao

Ianto.W. · 27-01-2007, 02:13

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Originally Posted by steeljack

Wow , Jambo .......20 yrs in the Queens Navy , (how did Churchill describe it ...Rum Sodomy and the Lash ) I thought you would be a bit more gay tolerant

George Melly the jaz racantour ex seaman wrote a book about it if you havn't read it steeljack try it, it's title is Rum Bum And Concertina.It is absolutely hillarious the only thing he didn't have was Leprosy.

WillowTheWhisp · 27-01-2007, 09:06

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Originally Posted by Mancie

Willow.. your suggestion leads us back to the same thing.. is the Catholic Church or any religion exempt from the law laid down by parliment.. an elected parliment of whatever party? do we go down the road were we make exemptions for Muslims,Catholics,mormons,buddists,or all faiths.. what is the point of making laws that bar discrimnation if some orginisations can claim exclusion?

Well, trying to look at this from my own point of view I would hope for a bit of understanding from the Government and from the rest of the population if there was some law passed which tried to force me to do something which was against my beliefs.

Another thought: If a law was passed saying that every adult had to give a pint of blood each year to keep NHS stocks up I would hope an exemption would be made for the Jehovah's Witnesses even though I'm not one.

If we are to be a tolerant society then we need to be tolerant of everyone, not just selected groups.

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Originally Posted by slinky

It's a shame there are so many prejudice people knocking about.

As long as it isn't harming anyone else!!! what the hell has it got to do with the PC brigade.

HMMMMMMMMMM maybe because the PC Brigade rule this bloody country now on WHAT people should and shouldn'tt be doing.

Hang on a mo - it's the so-called PC Brigade which is PRO gay adoption isn't it?

shakermaker · 27-01-2007, 09:58

Firstly I'd like to say that I am 100% behind gay couples being able to adopt.

Secondly I'd like to point out that the 'female nurturing role' is a result of socialisation, not of nature, which has meant some people in this forum are very misinformed.

Also, I cannot believe the amount of ignorance in this forum! "Being brought up by gay parents means you're gunna turn out gay, that can't be allowed" WHAT?! That's the most absurd argument I've ever heard. Homosexuality is not a disease, it's an expression of freedom and human rights for many people. Even I as a heterosexual person can see that.

The bottom line is, if the child is going to be loved in a safe environment with a family, rather than in a care home being just another statistic, then how can anyone object to that?

Common sense? Common ignorance more like.

Lolly · 27-01-2007, 11:43

My opinion is of course they should be allowed. Why the hell not??? As long as they give them a good home and life then thats fine.

flashy · 27-01-2007, 11:45

why dont they just leave them to it? like i said before druggies ruin there kids lives and peodofiles ruin kids lives........just let them be

Lolly · 27-01-2007, 11:47

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Originally Posted by flashytart

why dont they just leave them to it? like i said before druggies ruin there kids lives and peodofiles ruin kids lives........just let them be

Hear, Hear!!!!

Billcat · 27-01-2007, 12:46

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Originally Posted by Ianto.W.

We have an outfit here called 'The Social Services' Billcat they are a different kettle of fish alltogether, they are the can of worms that get involved when it does come court time, the plot doesn't half thicken then, not only does religion come into it, same race black kids must go to black parents half caste kids must go to half caste parents (to prevent an identity crisis) adopting children in this country is like a one leged man trying to win an arse kicking contest.

Oh, we have someting similar. Just that religion didn't play into it so much. I've a bit of experience, as I am an adoptive parent.

Billcat · 27-01-2007, 13:09

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Originally Posted by Mancie

enlighten me Garinda... from what was the "news" in around the early 80's it was the gay community in san fran sisco that really got hit by aids.. white americans?

Mancie is sadly ill-informed. When corrected, Mancie takes the lazy way out and defends a losing position. Not only that, but Mancie shows a real prejudice against Americans.

In the early days of AIDS, gay communities worldwide were disproportionately affected, due to the nature of their sexual practices. They also had one of the most effective campaigns to educate their own community (and the larger community as well) about how transmission of AIDS could be prevented. Result? The bulk of new AIDS cases happen in other groups.

Billcat · 27-01-2007, 13:16

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Originally Posted by steeljack

anything that gives a child a good home I have no problem with

Steeljack, I will even take it a step further. I admire folks who adopt. It is a very generous act and, as anyone who has raised a child will testify, one that has a high potential for being very difficult (or very rewarding).

Church Boy · 27-01-2007, 13:40

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Originally Posted by shakermaker

Firstly I'd like to say that I am 100% behind gay couples being able to adopt.

Secondly I'd like to point out that the 'female nurturing role' is a result of socialisation, not of nature, which has meant some people in this forum are very misinformed.

Also, I cannot believe the amount of ignorance in this forum! "Being brought up by gay parents means you're gunna turn out gay, that can't be allowed" WHAT?! That's the most absurd argument I've ever heard. Homosexuality is not a disease, it's an expression of freedom and human rights for many people. Even I as a heterosexual person can see that.

The bottom line is, if the child is going to be loved in a safe environment with a family, rather than in a care home being just another statistic, then how can anyone object to that?

Common sense? Common ignorance more like.

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No... I'ts more like un'common sense.The best thing in life is to be loved,and it does'nt matter to me who gives the love,because everbody has a right to give it.