Get on yer bike! - Page 3

Tealeaf · 16-01-2006, 17:32

The usual bureaucratic pipedream, with some nice pretty piccys.. I notice they failed to include the British Waterways Board while producing their report. Odd that, considering they have more experiance of waterside regeneration than the rest of 'em put togeather. And they do, of course, own the canal.

The trouble with this study as with many others, is it simply does not mention costs and funding. At the very least, should all the components of this outline scheme go ahead, then I doubt if there would be much change from £10m. Where is the money coming from? The private sector? The public sector? A partnership? And of course, what have the current owners of the buildings got to say? There is no mention of them.

At this stage, this is no more than a little exercise undertaken to justify the jobs of the people who wrote it. I do like the boats on page 8, though....welcome to Church,the Lancashire Riviera!

garinda · 16-01-2006, 17:40

Regeneration is good, particularly new residential accomodation. I do still think it's madness to grant plans for more retail space, whilst there are empty shops where the old outdoor market was, as well as other empty shops throughout the town centre.

I hope selling off the Market Hall doesn't produce the same effect as the many changes of hands as had on the Victorian arcade, a lot of which is empty, or on very short leases.

Acrylic-bob · 16-01-2006, 17:40

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I will agree with you there A-B, but you have to admit, the water colours look very good

Even my arthritic daubs look good when you miniaturise them.

park381 · 16-01-2006, 17:56

Anyone want to invest a few bob

http://www.hyndburnbc.gov.uk/your%5F...anal%202_1.pdf

SPUGGIE J · 16-01-2006, 17:57

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Originally Posted by park381

Anyone want to invest a few bob

http://www.hyndburnbc.gov.uk/your%5F...anal%202_1.pdf

Thought thats why council tax is paid.

park381 · 16-01-2006, 18:15

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Thought thats why council tax is paid.

Don't think it would cover that dream

good thought though

garinda · 16-01-2006, 18:18

At least the proposed development isn't some sort of retro toy-land architecture, echoing the new development on Broadway.

Tealeaf · 16-01-2006, 18:27

I do like the reference to the 'Blast Zone'.....that will surely appeal to any prospective developer. Sounds more like Baghdad than Church.

Graham Jones · 16-01-2006, 21:00

>>Stuart Nevison. Is`nt he the head of Barnfield Construction?

No, thats the other shareholder.

>>Does this mean that anyone can aquire land for residential development as long as it`s in Elevates regeneration area or just the council? This answer seems deliberatly vague.

Partnerships with private developers is a key objective. At the moment the no one wants to invest in the identified areas and that is exactly the problem.

>>I`m sure they are not especially with the council as a partner giving the green light to planning applications.

The areas concerned go through 2 years of planning and consultation which means objections to a planning application shouldn't happen.

Madhatter · 16-01-2006, 23:17

Thats a very impressive scheme, it would take years, and a lot of money but would be well worth doing, it would tidy the area, make use of some beautiful buildings that are delelict, unused and falling more and more in to a state of disrepair, promote civic pride, and promote the town, bringing tourists from the canal traffic and other areas.

garinda · 16-01-2006, 23:26

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Originally Posted by Madhatter

Thats a very impressive scheme, it would take years, and a lot of money but would be well worth doing, it would tidy the area, make use of some beautiful buildings that are delelict, unused and falling more and more in to a state of disrepair, promote civic pride, and promote the town, bringing tourists from the canal traffic and other areas.

Dear Mad as we call you, better not put your other nickname we call you in the chatroom, I bet the politicans would love you lived in Hyndburn, you see such noble motives everywhere you look.

Madhatter · 16-01-2006, 23:37

My name is mad or hatter thanks. I see both motives rindy, good and bad, I see why they're doing it and what they'll get out of it but I also see what we'll get out of it, the general public, and you as residents of the area. That project has great tourism potential. The canal is a great scource of tourist traffic. but then thats a different subject.

garinda · 16-01-2006, 23:47

No one is saying regeneration isn't a good thing.

SPUGGIE J · 17-01-2006, 12:19

For regeneration to work Joe public needs to be behind it. There will always be some objections but if the middle ground can be reached then its better for all. Accy has a history that should be made to work for the town not against it in a way that isolates the public. It comes down to making the best of what we have and selling it as such.

Yes there has been disasters but there must also be some successes like the Globe centre for instance. The transport infrastructure is there to get the people in its just finding the balance to achieve the goals required to bring money into the town and keep it comming. A project or projects is needed to do this providing mistakes of the past are learned from and not repeated a good example being the market and Broadway farces. If Stanley get promotion to the league they will bring a larger away support from the clubs they face into the town and they will want to spend money.

If the redevelopment goes right these people will spend whenever they visit but if it goes wrong then the pulling power of Stanley will be lost along with the money that goes with it. It might take 10 years to achieve but the longer we wait the harder it will be to pull punters into the town. The council both local and county need to get their acts together and come up with a vision. Stanley is an ideal starting point as when people ask me where I am from they all seem to know Accrington Stanley which makes me feel proud.

Its this pride that can be used to aid the town if its in the right direction and is nurtured like a new born baby with plenty of love and care. If we dont do something we will be labeled as another northern industrial town that is dying a slow painful death which for one I do not want to see happen. We need to start seeing Accrington in a positive light that we can hold are hands on our hearts and say "we are from Accrington and we are proud of our little town" well hopefully anyway. What we need is someone who is willing to champion Accy and look at its past present and future and make it a beacon of what an old industrial town can become with a bit off effort commitment and commen sense.

Appologies for the size but need to get it of my chest.

LETS HAVE PRIDE IN ACCY!!!

Madhatter · 17-01-2006, 23:31

well unless you do, It will go the same way as many other towns, your football team is a part of the town, on it's own it won't work but as part of a vision it could play an important role. you need lots of different things to take a town into the future, a possitive outlook, and pride in your town are good starters. You need things to make people want to come but once they're there you need to make people feel that they want to stay.
Accy can do it.