Getting Things In Perspective!!! - Page 2

cashman · 26-06-2009, 21:40

well i aint one of em bernie, aint commented on jacksons demise cos i couldn't care less.

accyman · 26-06-2009, 21:43

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE

I for one am quite dumbfounded that most of our contributing members have by-passed the mention of war heroes past and present yet commented on the death of Michael Jackson. Can somebody please tell me what Michael Jackson contributed that could ever take away from our war heroes?
Sorry but time to get things into perspective IMHO!!!!

no one likes to talk about the brave dying as its a sad occasion

everbody however loves to hear that a pedophile has dropped dead

katex · 26-06-2009, 21:51

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Originally Posted by West Ender

I'm talking about the ridiculously dramatic front page, not the rest of the paper.

Mmmm... suppose best not to read it whilst wearing white clothing then.

Eric · 27-06-2009, 00:17

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Originally Posted by West Ender

The front page of the Daily Express had a photo of Jackson and huge black block with the words "Michael Jackson Is Dead" in large white type. I was, to be honest, amazed and disgusted.

I doubt they will surpass that when the Queen dies.

The dead diddler didn't make the front page of the Whig-Standard; however a story about post traumatic stress disorder among troops returning from Afghanistand did.

jaysay · 27-06-2009, 08:54

Well I don't know about anybody else but its less than two days since MJ went moon walking in the sky, and I'm already cheesed of, totally utterly cheesed of. This morning as usual I put the ITV news on at 5-30am, the half hour program was wall to wall Jackson, not one mention of anything else, not a mention about it being armed services day, BBC news channel was no better, the world and is wife were rolled out, "whats your feeling about the death of MJ" was asked time and time again. I think for the next four or five weeks I'll look on Ceefax and Teletext to get news, because if I keep watching the News programs on any channel I may just give up the will to live myself

blazey · 27-06-2009, 14:08

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Originally Posted by jaysay

I may just give up the will to live myself

I can only hope

Tin Monkey · 27-06-2009, 14:17

Why is it necessary to make this comparison? Seems totally pointless to me.
If somebody close to you, or you care about, dies, then it's the most important thing at that point in time.

jaysay · 27-06-2009, 15:22

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Originally Posted by blazey

I can only hope

Don't worry lass I hope to be round a lot longer to keep poking you with a stick, as is my want

blazey · 27-06-2009, 15:30

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Originally Posted by jaysay

Don't worry lass I hope to be round a lot longer to keep poking you with a stick, as is my want

That's good then. Though I'd always have Garinda and Neil to fall back on.

BERNADETTE · 28-06-2009, 01:28

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Originally Posted by Tin Monkey

Why is it necessary to make this comparison? Seems totally pointless to me.
If somebody close to you, or you care about, dies, then it's the most important thing at that point in time.

Been really trying to get my head round this statement all day and still can't. Surely the debt we owe the lads and lasses who have and still are fighting for our freedom far outweighs our thoughts on Michael Jackson. How many of our members can claim to be remotely close to him? Hero worship gone overboard IMHO

jaysay · 28-06-2009, 09:33

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Originally Posted by blazey

That's good then. Though I'd always have Garinda and Neil to fall back on.

Ya the lads are great standard bearers

Tin Monkey · 28-06-2009, 13:17

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE

Been really trying to get my head round this statement all day and still can't. Surely the debt we owe the lads and lasses who have and still are fighting for our freedom far outweighs our thoughts on Michael Jackson. How many of our members can claim to be remotely close to him? Hero worship gone overboard IMHO

It's all relative really. How many people actually know people who've died in the armed forces? I don't mean some distant relation or ancestor, I mean actually know. Whilst I feel saddened by every death in a combat situation, the truth is that within minutes I've forgotten about it, and I suspect that goes for the majority of people if they're being honest. I remember and respect their sacrifices each year in November, but the rest of the year I'm too busy with my own life to mourn people I don't have any personal connection with.

I'm no fan of Michael Jackson, but for many people, his music is deeply ingrained into their lives and their memories. Music has the power to create very deep and emotional attachments. People often refer to 'a soundtrack to their lives' and how it can provoke very strong emotions within them. I was just thinking the same thing as I rewatched the Springsteen performance at Glastonbury from last night.

To come back to my original comment, I still see no need to make a comparison between the lives of Michael Jackson and those of the armed forces. If you only value life by the levels of serious sacrifices made, then many of us are stealing air on a daily basis. It seems quite shallow to make such judgments.

blazey · 29-06-2009, 12:37

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Originally Posted by Tin Monkey

It's all relative really. How many people actually know people who've died in the armed forces? I don't mean some distant relation or ancestor, I mean actually know. Whilst I feel saddened by every death in a combat situation, the truth is that within minutes I've forgotten about it, and I suspect that goes for the majority of people if they're being honest. I remember and respect their sacrifices each year in November, but the rest of the year I'm too busy with my own life to mourn people I don't have any personal connection with.

I'm no fan of Michael Jackson, but for many people, his music is deeply ingrained into their lives and their memories. Music has the power to create very deep and emotional attachments. People often refer to 'a soundtrack to their lives' and how it can provoke very strong emotions within them. I was just thinking the same thing as I rewatched the Springsteen performance at Glastonbury from last night.

To come back to my original comment, I still see no need to make a comparison between the lives of Michael Jackson and those of the armed forces. If you only value life by the levels of serious sacrifices made, then many of us are stealing air on a daily basis. It seems quite shallow to make such judgments.

To be honest, many people remember famous people who have died, it's not like they die and are then erased from our memories. Michael Jackson is no different than any of them. He brought great talent to the world and now he is dead. People do that all the time.

Michael Jackson isn't some sort of supreme being. He's not actually done very much for quite some time now other than make people question his mental health time and time again.

The true test will be if in 10, 15 years time the younger generations will still grant him the super stardom that we do. Elvis is remembered for being successful and dying young. But he's still only really popular musically with the generations who lived close to his time... just like the rock fans of my generation think of Kurt Cobain with people who died young in music...

Will the younger generations that are toddlers now associate MJ with his music or his madness in ten years time? We'll have to wait and see won't we.