Glenrothes Labour win

[garinda]

Originally Posted by lancsdave

Thats not like you

It isn't.

I've found all this talk of free speech very inspiring.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by garinda

It isn't.

I've found all this talk of free speech very inspiring.

Since when has anything had to inspire you to say out Rindi

[claytonender]

Originally Posted by garinda

Er...yes. I've said so before.

Also when a M.P. decides to cross the floor, after being elected under a different party banner.

Costly, but that's democracy.

I also think that if a councillor decides to cross the floor, after being elected under a different party banner, they should stand for re-election.

Meccy, Iappreciate that you are a new member of the site, and would like to welcome you, but could you please expalin why you think this country is not democratic. I have searched for a definition of the word democracy and have found this (Democracy is a form of government in which the supreme power is held completely by the people under a free electoral system). Here in the UK, anyone over the age of 18 (who register to vote) can exercise their right to vote for an MP, and the political part with the largest majority forms the government. Do you feel that there is a better way to determine how the national government (and all other local government) is chosen. Also here in the UK the counting of votes is done in front of representatives of all the political paries who have participated in the election, which I consider very important it the democratic process.

[Meccy]

Claytonender,

My issues are the following:

The prime minister sits in a constituency in another country with it's own parliament.

He is not elected. There should have been a general election when Blair quit.

We have laws/directives passed by the EU who are not fit to run a bath.

We have not been given the chance to vote on the EU constitution/Lisbon treaty.

This country does fit the dictionary definition of a democracy, the letter of the definition but the government uses every loophole and every trick in the book to ride rough-shod over the wishes and desires of the people.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Meccy

He is not elected. There should have been a general election when Blair quit.

That isn't breaking any legal laws or rules though, and has happened many times before, as in the example of Thatcher being ousted by her party in favour of Major.

Not really that much of an issue for me, as stated earlier. I vote for who I think will be the best M.P. for the constituency.

For all we know Cameron/Osborn may have a similar pact after the next election, with Osborn taking over as leader...of the oppposition.