Government Spy Program will Monitor you! - Page 15

Margaret Pilkington · 04-04-2012, 20:13

OK Gordon....the software may pull up the use of phrases/combinations of phrases to ensure an 'intelligent' hit....but once that is done, then surely it needs a human being to sift through the communication to determine whether some wrong doing is being planned.

Mancie · 04-04-2012, 20:17

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

I understand that the ISP's have to retain the information for two years, but I'm sure I read that the surveillance that was going to be used would access information about who was using what sites in 'real time'

I am aware that the surveillance agency will not be able to view the content of the communication....only that the communication exists.
If it is something that is thought to be a security risk, then further legal powers will have to be exercised to view the communication.

I think that's about right.. but if a user is targeted it's is easy to access data about what sites and the e.mails sent/recieved.. a child could do it.

DaveinGermany · 04-04-2012, 20:37

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Originally Posted by Gordon Booth

Visiting certain websites, using certain words, phrases,names will make your activity become highlighted, they can then ask the ISP for full details.

So Naughty Norwegian Nympho Norks, is still safe to visit then ?

I've no objection to them calling round early doors !

Margaret Pilkington · 04-04-2012, 20:38

They might be able to access the sites that have been used, but will not be able to access the actual communication....to see what the conversation was about.

If a person is suspected of some wrong doing then an intercept warrant needs to be used to get the content of the communication.....and the Home Secretary has to sign such a warrant. This is in line with the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act of 2000(RIPA).

If someone is really serious about internet anonymity, then there is a company called TOR who manufacture an internet anonymity shield. Apparently these sell well in countries known for repressive government practices(like China).

Anyway these surveillance proposals have now been delayed. Nick Clegg(spit) has said that they are only draft proposals....and that civil rights groups will be given access to the plans before any decisions are made. I bet that fills us all with confidence

Mancie · 04-04-2012, 20:56

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

Nick Clegg(spit) has said that they are only draft proposals....and that civil rights groups will be given access to the plans before any decisions are made. I bet that fills us all with confidence

Just like when every professional medical body were given access to the plans to privatise the NHS, they all said no.. but the this government overuled them all.

Margaret Pilkington · 04-04-2012, 21:24

I think it just a sop to placate public opinion........better get looking up the details of this TOR product.

I'm sure I read somewhere that Germany already have data retention laws.

Mancie · 04-04-2012, 21:48

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

I think it just a sop to placate public opinion........better get looking up the details of this TOR product.

I'm sure I read somewhere that Germany already have data retention laws.

Every nation in Europe already have data retension laws.

accyman · 04-04-2012, 22:06

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Originally Posted by Mancie

Every nation in Europe already have data retension laws.

dosnt make it right though

jaysay · 05-04-2012, 09:27

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

OK Gordon....the software may pull up the use of phrases/combinations of phrases to ensure an 'intelligent' hit....but once that is done, then surely it needs a human being to sift through the communication to determine whether some wrong doing is being planned.

I have no doubt Margaret that GCHQ will be monitoring known terrorist suspects, both phone and Internet, they certainly won't be interested in what you and me are doing