Great Harwood: Farmers Market raises £4,000 for charity

[Neil]

Originally Posted by g jones

.....Gaskells have been fantastic partners but a Sunday market on Towngate with chalets was initially 100% Labour - and we should take 100% credit for that.....

It wasn't 100% Labour it was 100% Hyndburn Borough Council. Unless the Labour Party purchased the chalets with their own money and built and removed them.

[Guinness]

Originally Posted by Ken Moss

I do smile at those who post prolifically online and purport to know far more about things than your average man on the street because they have read a few lines of newspaper article and can therefore see what is really going on.

Graham gives a clear cut answer in writing in public and it is still disputed.

Not forgetting those 'infamous' benches that 'outraged' close to three people.

God bless keyboard warriors everywhere.

I do smile at how readily some people make an ass of themselves.

Would that be someone who posts prolifically like me with less than 800 in 10 years or someone like you that posts over 2000 in 4 years.

I don't purport to know anything more than anyone else and have never claimed otherwise (unlike you have), I read bona fide stuff, I present evidence and draw conclusions. You on the other hand apparently listen to the fairies at the bottom of your 'Rishton Towers' garden, which is obvious from your stance that only 3 people are annoyed about the benches and that you can buy anything in Accrington.

The only keyboard warrior on this forum that I'm aware of is the one that pretty much waged war on the then council leader, with thread after thread after thread on how bad he was, then promptly went to ground himself the day after he was elected.

[Wynonie Harris]

Originally Posted by Ken Moss

Not forgetting those 'infamous' benches that 'outraged' close to three people.

God bless keyboard warriors everywhere.

Your contemptuous attitude does you no credit, Ken. The removal of those benches was more unpopular than you think and was just one of a whole host of moves by HBC which has reduced Accrington's appeal as a shopping centre. You don't have to take my word for it, go and see its pitifully semi-deserted state on a Saturday afternoon, compared with other town centres.

But of course, to quote the latest cliché, that's "talking the town down", isn't it? Well, I suggest that you and your fellow councillors take your heads out of the sand and face up to reality!

[cashman]

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

Your contemptuous attitude does you no credit, Ken. The removal of those benches was more unpopular than you think and was just one of a whole host of moves by HBC which has reduced Accrington's appeal as a shopping centre. You don't have to take my word for it, go and see its pitifully semi-deserted state on a Saturday afternoon, compared with other town centres.

But of course, to quote the latest cliché, that's "talking the town down", isn't it? Well, I suggest that you and your fellow councillors take your heads out of the sand and face up to reality!

Face up to reality, Mr Moss has just demonstrated to me, thats impossible.

[walkinman221]

Nobody needs to talk the town down Wyn once people have been here they can see for their selves what a dump the town center is. Filled as it is with empty shops, drunks, bag heads and scum bags , that unfortunately IS the reality.

[Less]

Originally Posted by walkinman221

Nobody needs to talk the town down Wyn once people have been here they can see for their selves what a dump the town center is. Filled as it is with empty shops, drunks, bag heads and scum bags , that unfortunately IS the reality.

Hey, leave us drunks alone, if we didn't bother to get up and call into the Centre of town not only would the paths be green with moss, but all the take aways would have to close down and the street cleaner would be out of a job!

[Gordon Booth]

Originally Posted by Less

Hey, leave us drunks alone, if we didn't bother to get up and call into the Centre of town not only would the paths be green with moss, but all the take aways would have to close down and the street cleaner would be out of a job!

And the pubs, Less. The pubs would all be shut without your contributions!

No benches- serious.

No pubs- disaster!

[Less]

Originally Posted by Gordon Booth

And the pubs, Less. The pubs would all be shut without your contributions!



No benches- serious.



No pubs- disaster!

Well, thank you, you have just pointed out to me that I actually have a purpose in life, I can from now on stagger proudly over our uneven pavements knowing that I and many, many, many, like me are actually keeping the pubs open for the once a year celebrating Christmas drinkers.

[Gordon Booth]

Originally Posted by Less

Well, thank you, you have just pointed out to me that I actually have a purpose in life, I can from now on stagger proudly over our uneven pavements knowing that I and many, many, many, like me are actually keeping the pubs open for the once a year celebrating Christmas drinkers.

Don't underestimate yourself. We all have a purpose in life, even Graham Hartley.

Your purpose is an important one.
Graham Hartley's purpose- well, I haven't worked that one out yet.

[Less]

Originally Posted by Gordon Booth

Don't underestimate yourself. We all have a purpose in life, even Graham Hartley.



Your purpose is an important one.

Graham Hartley's purpose- well, I haven't worked that one out yet.

Don't worry, I can tell from his witterings neither has he.

[g jones]

'This is no good, that's no good... everything is no good' is to often the lazy (don't care) answer which I am implicitly against.

Ken isn't one rung up the ladder. It's little reward financially for the effort made. He's making an effort. If as much time was transferred from typing absolute drivel into going to your nearest pensioners social (or engaging in some way with society), then society and those individuals would be a better off.

It's worrying behaviour because the latest prosecutions over the abuse to the lady over a female face on bank notes revealed the two perpetrators lived lonesome lives and had serious mental health problems. There appears to be a trend where keyboard warriors and trolls who sit alone behind their computer screen, particularly those who engage in personal abuse - who desperately need some form of help. From serious mental health problems to anger management.

The LT website is worrying.

Most councillors (a favourite villain of trolls) in my experience by contrast spend hours in the community giving something back and live a normal life amongst real people.

[Margaret Pilkington]

It is easy to make the comment that those who criticise are lazy and don't care.Just as easy as it is for the people who say things are no good...but it doesn't make it true.I accept that councillors work hard for their wards. Maybe they do not do it for the financial reward, but for the inner sense of making their surroundings(and those of their electorate) better.
Not everything can be reduced to pounds shillings and pence.

Much has been done at the town which has taken away from it rather than adding to it.
This has been done over many years...in fact over decades...and some of it I feel was done for political point scoring, by people who had their own agendas.

These changes are very difficult to undo and especially in the recent climate of austerity.

It is absolutely no good at all to market Accrington as something it isn't. It is dishonest and will lead to further problems long term.

Accrington has to have something that is marketable - to bring traders in......traders will bring with them their own clientele.

At the moment Accrington is just another impoverished once industrial town with not much to recommend it.
(I am NOT talking down the town - just being realistic about what accrington has to offer)I am neither a keyboard warrior or a troll and I find that using those terms is both offensive and counter productive and not something I expected from you Graham.

[Less]

Originally Posted by g jones

'This is no good, that's no good... everything is no good' is to often the lazy (don't care) answer which I am implicitly against.

What would be of some good is for those with a little power to come onsite bragging about what the Council does as a team, not blowing your own political trumpet about a few things claimed to have been done by just one party.

Originally Posted by g jones

Ken isn't one rung up the ladder. It's little reward financially for the effort made. He's making an effort. If as much time was transferred from typing absolute drivel into going to your nearest pensioners social (or engaging in some way with society), then society and those individuals would be a better off..

You are absolutely correct Ken isn't one rung up the political ladder, he's supposed to be at the bottom of it making sure those above have a steady base.
You just assumed I meant him, perhaps you should look closer to home?

Originally Posted by Less

Especially those that get one rung up on the political ladder then come back to tell everyone how little they all know.

Originally Posted by g jones

It's worrying behaviour because the latest prosecutions over the abuse to the lady over a female face on bank notes revealed the two perpetrators lived lonesome lives and had serious mental health problems.

Sorry, I must have missed this piece of important news could you elaborate?

Originally Posted by g jones

There appears to be a trend where keyboard warriors and trolls who sit alone behind their computer screen, particularly those who engage in personal abuse - who desperately need some form of help. From serious mental health problems to anger management.

When did becoming an MP make you a Doctor able to diagnose what is or isn't wrong with other people?

Originally Posted by g jones

The LT website is worrying.

That's a bit of isolated wandering would you like to expand on it or perhaps (using my vast medical experience) may I suggest you start taking your tablets again?
See, we can all make sweeping statements working on little or no information.

Originally Posted by g jones

Most Councillors (a favourite villain of trolls) in my experience by contrast spend hours in the community giving something back and live a normal life among real people.

Some people do plenty within their community, they just don't display their self importance by announcing it as a little bit of political publicity.

Perhaps if you came onsite without talking down to everyone you would get a better response?
No doubt you will return with some glowing put down, that is not the way to make friends and influence people.

[Margaret Pilkington]

It is really easy to see where we all went wrong.
We voted the wrong person into power.
Worst of all we did it over and over again...because we were duped by the lies.
Our other fault is that we do not publicise whatever deeds we do in our own communities.

[Margaret Pilkington]

Do I have to take my pills now Nurse?