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04-06-2012, 10:04
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Re: Great to see it
321 comments so far, in one of the national paper's coverage of this story, regarding Graham Jones's crass remarks.
Rural broadband would only benefit the rich, says Labour MP Graham Jones - Telegraph
Still they do say all publicity is good publicity, even when it's bad.
A win/win situation for him then.
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04-06-2012, 11:55
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Re: Great to see it
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Originally Posted by garinda
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Well he'll think its a success now he's made the Times even though its a rather inane subject
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04-06-2012, 12:19
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Re: Great to see it
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Originally Posted by jaysay
Well he'll think its a success now he's made the Times even though its a rather inane subject
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'Jones made the comments on a blog on his website, which has since been taken down, but not before being reported by Farmers Weekly and The Daily Telegraph.'
Rural broadband will just benefit the rich, says Labour MP - Tech News - Digital Spy
What?
His blog's been 'taken down'?
What are we all going to read now, when we need a little chuckle?
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04-06-2012, 12:31
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Re: Great to see it
He's still blogging about it today, desperately trying to defend his crass assumptions.
He says...
'People in East Lancashire have commented that the comments I made were correct'
Graham Jones MP
Well not on here sunshine, they ain't. Not on here.
Perhaps it's the other '95%' of his constituents, he's referring to.
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04-06-2012, 13:13
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Re: Great to see it
Seems he may be needing a bigger shovel.
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04-06-2012, 13:45
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Re: Great to see it
think he needs a JCB.
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04-06-2012, 14:49
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Re: Great to see it
Perhaps he should have noted what shadow culture secretary Harriet Harman said not a million years ago - the government weren't doing enough for the rural broadband community.
Why doesn't he stick to what he knows - but then we probably wouldn't hear much at all from him if he did.
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04-06-2012, 17:18
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Re: Great to see it
Does he know anything at all?
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04-06-2012, 17:30
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Re: Great to see it
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Does he know anything at all?
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Yes, he knows '95% of us don't give a toss about Europe.'
He told us.
So it's got to be true.
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04-06-2012, 17:37
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Re: Great to see it
Unfortunately it seems our illustrious MP suffers from the incurable ailment called Foot In Mouth Syndrome, everytime he opens is gob he puts his size nines in it
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05-06-2012, 10:22
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Re: Great to see it
Graham's comments are ridiculous. It's the politics of class warfare and his distain for the better off appears to blind his ability to understand rural poverty.
His argument is pretty baseless. He's helpfully ignored that the private sector will match fund this project to the tune of £30m. Only a proportion, £4.7m, is from Lancashire County Council. Graham appears to want to throw away £60m of allocated Government, European, and private sector funding for our region.
Graham's 25 jobs figure is very selective. The 25 jobs are direct jobs for the project, though he forgets to mention the 220 jobs that are also secured. It doesn't take a brain surgeon to work out that many existing jobs will be protected by this funding. New businesses will be created and existing ones will grow as a result of the superfast broadband infrastructure. LCC and BT say the project will create about 2,500 new jobs and safeguard more than 1,200 over the next few years.
The broadband plan ( here if you're interested), as of November 2011, says it has the support of all Lancashire's MPs, including Graham. Would Graham like to comment on that?
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05-06-2012, 10:43
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Re: Great to see it
which private sector companies are doing this,just a matter of interest
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05-06-2012, 12:13
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Re: Great to see it
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Originally Posted by andrewb
The broadband plan ( here if you're interested), as of November 2011, says it has the support of all Lancashire's MPs, including Graham. Would Graham like to comment on that?
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He probably won't make a comment on it. So don't hold your breath waiting.
It just smacks of being 'anti' because he is in opposition, or is it the politics of envy?.......it seems that no rational thought processes went into what he said. He seems to assume that all people who live in the country are moneyed....and that is not the case.
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05-06-2012, 12:21
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Re: Great to see it
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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington
He seems to assume that all people who live in the country are moneyed....and that is not the case.
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Well I lived in the country for seventeen years and we certainly weren't moneyed. Some weekends we were unable to get money from the bank due to lack of funds and were forced to go round the market at closing time picking up leftover fruit and veg that had been thrown away as unsaleable.We worked damned hard and for some of the time my other half was unemployed. He also set up his own business working from home and would probably have been a lot more successful had any sort of broadband been available in those days.
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05-06-2012, 13:17
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Originally Posted by garinda
He's still blogging about it today, desperately trying to defend his crass assumptions.
He says...
'People in East Lancashire have commented that the comments I made were correct'
Graham Jones MP
Well not on here sunshine, they ain't. Not on here.
Perhaps it's the other '95%' of his constituents, he's referring to.
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well when you have %100 control over editing and content its pretty easy to make yourself look right
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