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12-11-2011, 22:14
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Re: Greece Bailout
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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington
I have just been looking at his details G....seems to have his head screwed on right.
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Seems to be.
You never can tell.
Can but hope.
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12-11-2011, 22:50
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Re: Greece Bailout
Well i just read the geezers details n he certainly seems more in line wi the ordinary persons line of thought,than any of those wasters in the main 3 parties,i will certainly delve more into UKIP, oer the next few months, they may even compel me to return to voting.
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12-11-2011, 22:57
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Re: Greece Bailout
Looked him up too -sorry to be sceptical -will he really be willing to give up a cushy job with all the trimmings representing the NW of England in Europe.....I wouldn't if I were a 32 yr old with political aspirations...
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12-11-2011, 23:00
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Re: Greece Bailout
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Originally Posted by mobertol
Looked him up too -sorry to be sceptical -will he really be willing to give up a cushy job with all the trimmings representing the NW of England in Europe.....I wouldn't if I were a 32 yr old with political aspirations...
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But - if UKIP succeed in getting us out of the EU, those UKIP MEPS will get elected to OUR parliament by landslides
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12-11-2011, 23:01
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Re: Greece Bailout
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But - if UKIP succeed in getting us out of the EU, those UKIP MEPS will get elected to OUR parliament by landslides
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That we can agree on.
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12-11-2011, 23:02
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Re: Greece Bailout
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But - if UKIP succeed in getting us out of the EU, those UKIP MEPS will get elected to OUR parliament by landslides
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Sorry but that's a bit simplistic to sat the least...
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12-11-2011, 23:04
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Re: Greece Bailout
Pigs might fly ...or witches on broomsticks....!
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12-11-2011, 23:05
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Re: Greece Bailout
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Sorry but that's a bit simplistic to sat the least...
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Doubt if its as simple as yeh think, i would say the majority of the british public "Loathe" the E.U. I would also think the party leaders are of the same mind,hence the reason M.P.s were put under pressure wi 3 line whips etc, in that vote.
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12-11-2011, 23:10
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Re: Greece Bailout
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Doubt if its as simple as yeh think, i would say the majority of the british public "Loathe" the E.U.
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Most of the European public too Olly - it's just not as simple as saying we've had enough let's leave the club unfortunately.
30% of 18 -25 yr olds in Italy are out of work with NO benefits or job-seekers allowance and many are leaving the country -they say it will take a generation at least to get over this...
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12-11-2011, 23:20
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Re: Greece Bailout
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Most of the European public too Olly - it's just not as simple as saying we've had enough let's leave the club unfortunately.
30% of 18 -25 yr olds in Italy are out of work with NO benefits or job-seekers allowance and many are leaving the country -they say it will take a generation at least to get over this...
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When the EU disintegrates those young folk will no longer have the right to work in those other (ex)EU countries, so they might as well stay home to participate in a non violent revolution and/or grow food for barter.
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13-11-2011, 06:34
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Re: Greece Bailout
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Originally Posted by mobertol
Looked him up too -sorry to be sceptical -will he really be willing to give up a cushy job with all the trimmings representing the NW of England in Europe.....I wouldn't if I were a 32 yr old with political aspirations...
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Like I stated, if he's one of that rare breed, an honest politican, who walks the walk, and actually backs up his words with actions, it will be rather refreshing.
If he says his sole aim is a self-destruct mission, lf true, more power to him.
I've been in contact with him and his party, as it seems others have too. Informing them that regardless of what happens with the Hyndburn constituency, after the Boundary Commission have done their meddling, that they should ensure that this area has a credible UKIP candidate(s) in all forthcoming elections, and that they'd be assured of a great deal of local support.
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13-11-2011, 10:33
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Re: Greece Bailout
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Originally Posted by g jones
The problem for the Germans is the Mediterranean nations devalue the Deutchmark.
The problems for the Greeks as I said to Bone and Nuttall, if your a Greek with a €100k and someone whispers Drachma, you shift your Euros to a bank outside of Greece. The question is if everyone thinks the same, what happens to the Drachma and the Greek economy, Greek banks? Can any of them survive? Will the position not be cataclysmic compared to where they are now? A run on the Drachma that would resemble a run on the Zimbadwean currency?
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Well at least we know you haven't disappeared of the face of the earth, even if your post was irrelevant, to today's financial fiasco in the euro zone
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13-11-2011, 10:37
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Re: Greece Bailout
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You aren't the only one Cashy. It didn't take long did it?
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It don't when the leader of your party has his foot on your neck Margaret
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13-11-2011, 10:40
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Re: Greece Bailout
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Originally Posted by garinda
I agree.
As I've said, that makes me genuinely sad.
Watched Graham's maiden speech in the Commons, again today.
In which he referred to Ken Hargreaves as being a good representative for the people of Hyndburn.
Ken's gone public, despite poor health, to say he would have been a rebel.
Knowing the democratic needs of the people he represented, were more important than party political ties.
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Ken was never a career politician, he only ever wanted to represent the people he grew up with and lived amongst all his life, a true champion of the people, the finest MP this constituency has ever or is ever likely to have which has been proved only recently
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13-11-2011, 11:36
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Re: Greece Bailout
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Originally Posted by mobertol
Looked him up too -sorry to be sceptical -will he really be willing to give up a cushy job with all the trimmings representing the NW of England in Europe.....I wouldn't if I were a 32 yr old with political aspirations...
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Perhaps, perhaps not, but he's certainly worth a punt and I'll be voting for him.
What's the altenative? Vote for Con/LibDem/Lab who all want to carry on with the insane power drive towards a United States of Europe and who don't want to give us ordinary folk a say on whether we agree or not? The only other anti-EU party is the BNP who, personally, I'd never vote for in a thousand years.
I really hope there's an upsurge in electoral support for the UKIP, whatever their shortcomings, purely to give the complacent sods in the the major parties a real kick up the backside and show them that they can't take us for granted.
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