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accymel · 16-01-2007, 16:24

Personally i think he is a great MP & does take an interest & try to help where possible, i've had 2 dealings with him 1] with council & 2] with nhs dentist, both done via email. I have to say he was rather fast at getting back to me on all occaisons & managed sucessfully to resolve both cases with minimum fuss & hassle, i certainly got a lot further with his help than without, certainly on a local level he is quite pro-active

accymel · 16-01-2007, 16:26

I think the issue of national politics is something different to local, as a local MP i cant fault him at all & hope he stays on in the local constituency.

KIPAX · 16-01-2007, 16:30

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Originally Posted by garinda

How on earth do you know what his constituents wanted or want, .

who ?

I have no idea how he knew... but he did say he knew he was going against what the majority of his constiuants want him to do... how he knew I have no idea... maybe he guessed ?

the point is that he believed he was doing what he wanted and he believed the people who voted for himw anted soemhtign else... yet still decided to stuff them and go for what he wanted..

Ask him how he knew.... is he in the country at the moment.. ?

garinda · 16-01-2007, 16:54

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Originally Posted by KIPAX

who ?

I have no idea how he knew... but he did say he knew he was going against what the majority of his constiuants want him to do... how he knew I have no idea... maybe he guessed ?

the point is that he believed he was doing what he wanted and he believed the people who voted for himw anted soemhtign else... yet still decided to stuff them and go for what he wanted..

Ask him how he knew.... is he in the country at the moment.. ?

Going with what they think is right is all any MP can ever do. If the majority of people don't like those choices, they can exercise their democratic right to vote him or her out come the next election.

Like I said earlier, personally I'm glad the majority of MPs don't believe in the death penalty, unlike the vast majority of the public, according to polls conducted on behalf of the tabloids.

KIPAX · 16-01-2007, 16:58

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Originally Posted by garinda

Going with what they think is right is all any MP can ever do. .

eeerm really? ... He says he is here to represent the people of hyndburn... how exactly is he representing them if he knows they want one thing (according to himself) but he does the other.... please explain ?

I see we are still waiting with baited breath for an answer to Neils question ...

garinda · 16-01-2007, 17:08

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Originally Posted by KIPAX

I see we are still waiting with baited breath for an answer to Neils question ...

I'm not here to defend him, or what he has done, or not done, for Hyndburn, but after a quick shufty on his website, he did make a speech in Parliament recently, trying to stop the planned closures, and centralisation of the Fire Service in Hyndburn.

http://www.gregpope.co.uk/story.asp?storyID=110

Why don't you stand against him at the next election Kipax, you will after all have one vote, from Neil...though who he votes for, and then who he wished he'd voted for after, does seem to change.

KIPAX · 16-01-2007, 17:12

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Originally Posted by garinda

but after a quick shufty on his website, he did make a speech in Parliament recently, trying to stop the planned closures, and centralisation of the Fire Service in Hyndburn.

yeagh i think we where looking for what he has done.. not what he tried to do

http://www.gregpope.co.uk/story.asp?storyID=110

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Originally Posted by garinda

Why don't you stand against him at the next election Kipax

what a wierd thing to say... why dont you stand against him at the next election garinda?

no answer to my question to you in the last post I see..

garinda · 16-01-2007, 17:16

I'm not answering you.

You seem to be in one of those moods, similar to when you come on tanked up in the early hours of the morning.

I fear me answering you will give you another thrill, and that I am unwilling to do.

KIPAX · 16-01-2007, 17:19

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Originally Posted by garinda

I'm not answering you.

true to form... start somehting then ****** off as soon as your proven to be talking out of your backside again..

skippy · 16-01-2007, 17:22

i ddont think kipax was trying to have a go its just that like a lot of people i know he probably thinks gregs work for accy hasnt amounted to much. iwas just talking to someone today and they agreed that he seems to not want to get involved in certain issues

andrewb · 16-01-2007, 17:24

Im a firm believer in the constituents voting an MP to use his own judgment in parliament.

Like garinda says, the majority of the population would probably want the death penalty, however thankfully the MP's make their own judgment on it and vote overwhelmingly against it.

In the case of Iraq I happen to think he was wrong, but he believed he was right and thats what people voted him to do, we can't have a referendum for every vote in parliament, and if we did, the country would be in a much sorrier state than it is now.

KIPAX · 16-01-2007, 17:26

I dont know enough to make that call... i think he probably has done good stuff for people.. but its all little stuff (big to them but you know what i mean) and he probbaly does a good job on the whole... but what sticks in my memory i what I outlined earlier.. So....

lets say your his campaign manager.. you want him re elected and you have been given the task to show what he has done for hyndburn....not what he tried to do.. promised to do... but what positive effect he has had on hyndburn.... Off you go.... anyone ?

KIPAX · 16-01-2007, 17:29

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Originally Posted by Cyfr

In the case of Iraq I happen to think he was wrong, but he believed he was right and thats what people voted him to do,

Right this is where we are at loggerheads.. I "presumed" and am happy to be proven wrong.. that he was voted in to do what his constituants wanted... to be the voice of the people as they cant all fit in parliment.. so he goes for them and does what he knows they want.... on the one occasion I know of... he did the opposite of what they wanted...

So is he there to do what the poeple want as he says on his website.. or what he wants as garinda says?

garinda · 16-01-2007, 17:33

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Originally Posted by KIPAX

I dont know enough to make that call... i think he probably has done good stuff for people.. but its all little stuff (big to them but you know what i mean) and he probbaly does a good job on the whole... but what sticks in my memory i what I outlined earlier.. So....

lets say your his campaign manager.. you want him re elected and you have been given the task to show what he has done for hyndburn....not what he tried to do.. promised to do... but what positive effect he has had on hyndburn.... Off you go.... anyone ?

Although he is in Parliament, he is there to represent his constituency on numerous issues, not just local ones. You brought up his vote on going to war with Iraq. I'm sure there are numerous other debates and votes, that are nothing at all to do with local constituencies, wherever they may be.

Personally I don't see my MP as someone who is in some sort of X-Factor contest. Winning what they can, in some sort of lottery contest. A lot of that is and should be done at local level. I'm bloody glad he's not trying to win one of the Super Casino bids for Hyndburn.

KIPAX · 16-01-2007, 17:35

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Originally Posted by garinda

Although he is in Parliament, he is there to represent his constituency on numerous issues, not just local ones. .

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Originally Posted by garinda

You brought up his vote on going to war with Iraq. I'm sure there are numerous other debates and votes, that are nothing at all to do with local constituencies, wherever they may be.

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Originally Posted by garinda

Personally I don't see my MP as someone who is in some sort of X-Factor contest. Winning what they can, in some sort of lottery contest. A lot of that is and should be done at local level. I'm bloody glad he's not trying to win one of the Super Casino bids for Hyndburn.

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anything to add to the debate or just passing wind ?