Gun Control - Page 7

jaysay · 27-07-2012, 08:23

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Originally Posted by kestrelx

Have you looked at all the statistics? To be honest I can't say for sure of it has reduced it? The increase in violence may be for other reasons than access to guns - perhaps it would be worse if hand guns could still be obtained under licence?

Take airguns - they were used by many "idiots" in our society and it's the actions of those idiots that got the stricter airgun laws brought in - in which one can be imprisoned and or fined for using air-guns in away that breaks the law.

Use an air gun in an inappropriate way and your breaking the law so why more legislation

kestrelx · 27-07-2012, 21:56

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Originally Posted by jaysay

Use an air gun in an inappropriate way and your breaking the law so why more legislation

Well they had to redefine the law because a lot of thugs were using airguns in crime and intimidation as it was legal to use them in your own back yard and there were no laws - they had to change it to disallow use within 100metres of a public place. Which means you can no longer shoot one in your garden or backyard unless 100 metres from another's property or public place - just in case of stray pellets hitting someone nearby.

kestrelx · 27-07-2012, 21:59

Gun laws won't stop a thug like this character getting a gun and blowing someone away in the street off a whim!

'Psycho' gets at least 30 years - UK News - MSN News UK

Thing is this guy will live of his vicious actions in prison and be respected by criminals. This is why he should be kept in solitary confinement which will stop him from bragging about his crime and being some kind of hero.

cashman · 27-07-2012, 22:13

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Originally Posted by kestrelx

Gun laws won't stop a thug like this character getting a gun and blowing someone away in the street off a whim! Agree 100%

'Psycho' gets at least 30 years - UK News - MSN News UK

Thing is this guy will live of his vicious actions in prison and be respected by criminals. This is why he should be kept in solitary confinement which will stop him from bragging about his crime and being some kind of hero.

Should be strung up.not too sure about the hero bit,Think he may get a bit of grief off some cons.

kestrelx · 27-07-2012, 22:39

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Originally Posted by cashman

Should be strung up.not too sure about the hero bit,Think he may get a bit of grief off some cons.

I agree - but he will find some people who look up to him for it.

Guinness · 28-07-2012, 00:15

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Originally Posted by kestrelx

Thing is this guy will live of his vicious actions in prison and be respected by criminals.

You speaking from first hand experience, reading the daily mail or watching Dirty Harry films?

kestrelx · 28-07-2012, 00:42

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Originally Posted by Guinness

You speaking from first hand experience, reading the daily mail or watching Dirty Harry films?

I've picked it up off documentary's and news programs. He was already involved in gang culture before he did the crime - so from those types of people he'll get respect...

gynn · 28-07-2012, 00:56

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Originally Posted by kestrelx

from those types of people he'll get respect...

Why should we give a fig about whether or not he gets respect from other useless losers in prison? All that matters is that none of them ever get let out.

Wynonie Harris · 28-07-2012, 08:42

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Originally Posted by gynn

Why should we give a fig about whether or not he gets respect from other useless losers in prison? All that matters is that none of them ever get let out.

That's the point though, the scum was only given a maximum of 30 years, so he could get out. No such reprieve for the poor lad who he callously shot, or his heartbroken parents. In cases of coldblooded murder like this, life should mean life...and in the harshest of conditions.

jaysay · 28-07-2012, 09:10

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

That's the point though, the scum was only given a maximum of 30 years, so he could get out. No such reprieve for the poor lad who he callously shot, or his heartbroken parents. In cases of coldblooded murder like this, life should mean life...and in the harshest of conditions.

That's why I kind of like the American sentencing, Life without the possibility of parole, 40 years to life, or better still the needle, gas chamber or the chair, which is exactly what these scumbags deserve

cashman · 28-07-2012, 09:13

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Originally Posted by jaysay

That's why I kind of like the American sentencing, Life without the possibility of parole, 40 years to life, or better still the needle, gas chamber or the chair, which is exactly what these scumbags deserve

Yeh n while any silly sod can buy a gun yon, At least they give em more realistic sentences when apprehended.

jaysay · 28-07-2012, 09:35

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Originally Posted by cashman

Yeh n while any silly sod can buy a gun yon, At least they give em more realistic sentences when apprehended.

Ya the thing is cashy this week is the tenth anniversary of the Soham Tragedy, and that scumbag Huntley is living the life of Riley in a cushie cell all mod cons Satellite TV Stereo and three square a day, that really does pee me off

Neil · 28-07-2012, 10:04

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Originally Posted by kestrelx

...Take airguns - they were used by many "idiots" in our society and it's the actions of those idiots that got the stricter airgun laws brought in - in which one can be imprisoned and or fined for using air-guns in away that breaks the law.

You always could be

kestrelx · 28-07-2012, 10:10

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Originally Posted by Neil

You always could be

There have been 1,000's of incidents with young teenagers in which they have shot pets, people, children, shot at children from distance in schoolgrounds and play parks and shot animals and birds - this is why they needed new laws to stop this. Before this Airguns were often bought for minors as a present with no guidelines for making them use them responsibly!

Neil · 28-07-2012, 10:11

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Originally Posted by kestrelx

Well they had to redefine the law because a lot of thugs were using airguns in crime and intimidation as it was legal to use them in your own back yard and there were no laws - they had to change it to disallow use within 100metres of a public place. Which means you can no longer shoot one in your garden or backyard unless 100 metres from another's property or public place - just in case of stray pellets hitting someone nearby.

You really do talk rubbish, try checking up on the drivel you read before repeating it.

It is illegal to fire an airgun closer than 50 feet (15 metres) from the centre of a public highway, bridleway or footpath, if your shooting causes upset or inconvenience to those using the highway and the fine is £1000

Also your pellets can not travel outside the boundary of the land you have permission to shoot on.