Gun Control

[Mancie]

Whatever goes on in the USA has regarding gun control has nowt to do with us.. the main thing is that in this country there should be zero tolerance of any guns for any member of the public..zero.

[kestrelx]

Originally Posted by Mancie

Whatever goes on in the USA has regarding gun control has nowt to do with us.. the main thing is that in this country there should be zero tolerance of any guns for any member of the public..zero.

Agree with you on that one - people who want them for sports should be under strict controls. In the USA I think the country have to face some demons about guns and maybe they don't want to face them - too many guns and they need to be taken out of circulation - that's what I think, that said it's nigh on impossible to remove those weapons that are currently owned by the public there!

[Mancie]

I reckon most of us on here and not only the older bods have handled or at least seen shotguns and such in the past used to shoot rabbits,dogs,unwanted calfs and such but times change.. I don't see any reason for anyone other than the Police or Army should be allowed to own any guns.

[kestrelx]

Originally Posted by Mancie

I reckon most of us on here and not only the older bods have handled or at least seen shotguns and such in the past used to shoot rabbits,dogs,unwanted calfs and such but times change.. I don't see any reason for anyone other than the Police or Army should be allowed to own any guns.

Yeh but...what about farmers and hunters - people who need guns to shoot deer, pheasant and other game and vermin, what do they do for a weapon?

[Eric]

Originally Posted by Mancie

I reckon most of us on here and not only the older bods have handled or at least seen shotguns and such in the past used to shoot rabbits,dogs,unwanted calfs and such but times change.. I don't see any reason for anyone other than the Police or Army should be allowed to own any guns.

Problem is that many Americans don't want their government to have a monopoly on firearms. And many of those same Americans see their own government as the greatest threat to their freedom. If you feel like taking a trip through a sewer in a glass bottomed boat, check out some of the Arayan Nations web sites; you will get a good idea of how many yanks think.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by kestrelx

Agree with you on that one - people who want them for sports should be under strict controls. In the USA I think the country have to face some demons about guns and maybe they don't want to face them - too many guns and they need to be taken out of circulation - that's what I think, that said it's nigh on impossible to remove those weapons that are currently owned by the public there!

They have a massive pro gun lobby in the states, with some very heavy weight backers, I know Charlton Heston was very active in this department for many years

[susie123]

It's often overlooked that shooting in this country provides jobs for many people, in the form of sport, estate management, pest control and the like. It's also an important factor in the conservation of many landscapes.

I'm not expecting folks to wade through it all but the following document, from the UK's premier organisation for shooters, the British Association for Shooting and Conservation, gives a straightforward assessment of the law and many other aspects of the subject of shooting including employment and conservation, towards the end.

http://www.basc.org.uk/download.cfm/...D2668B13576896

[susie123]

Originally Posted by Eric

If you feel like taking a trip through a sewer in a glass bottomed boat, check out some of the Arayan Nations web sites; you will get a good idea of how many yanks think.

Eric, I went as far as looking up Aryan Nations on Wikipedia. When I saw how many organisations were listed in the USA I didn't go any further, feeling rather sick. It makes the BNP/NF over here look like a Sunday school picnic.

[Eric]

Originally Posted by susie123

Eric, I went as far as looking up Aryan Nations on Wikipedia. When I saw how many organisations were listed in the USA I didn't go any further, feeling rather sick. It makes the BNP/NF over here look like a Sunday school picnic.

Damn right they do. And it's not just the blacks; jews come in for as much criticism (that's a euphemism) ...

A few years back, some good ol' boys decided it would be fun to drag a black man behind a pick up truck. They dragged him to his death. They are now in jail of course. But one of the Aryan groups claimed that they should have a gold medal in the "dragging a nigger behind a truck event" or something like that. If you have a strong stomach, and with your research skills, you should be able to find it on the web. They are not shy about taking advantage of their First Ammedment rights.

[susie123]

Originally Posted by Eric

Damn right they do. And it's not just the blacks; jews come in for as much criticism (that's a euphemism) ...

Yep, the only website I actually looked at was about Jews. I'm afraid I gave up after that.

[MargaretR]

Australians have been disarmed and gun crime has increased (if you believe this video)

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[Eric]

And be caareful if you order stuff online

Man orders TV from Amazon, receives gun instead - Your Community

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Eric

And be caareful if you order stuff online

Man orders TV from Amazon, receives gun instead - Your Community

Caareful Eric

[kestrelx]

Originally Posted by jaysay

They have a massive pro gun lobby in the states, with some very heavy weight backers, I know Charlton Heston was very active in this department for many years

Yes his famous words are; "from my cold, dead hands!" as he held up a rifle at a meeting. Meaning that he'd have to be dead before he gave up his weapons.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by kestrelx

Yes his famous words are; "from my cold, dead hands!" as he held up a rifle at a meeting. Meaning that he'd have to be dead before he gave up his weapons.

He did