Gurkhas Win - Page 4

cashman · 25-04-2009, 21:06

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Originally Posted by jaysay

Irrespective of rights or wrongs from the past

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Originally Posted by Royboy39

Why was it not reprospective? Labour have had 12 years to right the situation but have declined......You have habit of blaming Maggie for all that is out of order in today's society.
Maggie would call a spade a spade............you can't do that now.

its not a case of blaming maggie, but what i would love to know is were you 2 slagging the torys when they were in power fer doing sod all? somehow i doubt it.

jaysay · 26-04-2009, 09:07

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Originally Posted by cashman

its not a case of blaming maggie, but what i would love to know is were you 2 slagging the torys when they were in power fer doing sod all? somehow i doubt it.

I quite often spoke out against the Tory Government cashy, especially over the Community Charge, of which I said that the concept was good but the implementation was crap, if the charge had have been set at £50 per head ( but still with benefits for the less well off) I don't think anybody would have objected, but at near £300 per head it was scandalous

cashman · 26-04-2009, 09:56

was refering to admitting the gurkhas john, have no doubt ya slagged em fer other things.

Royboy39 · 26-04-2009, 20:47

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Originally Posted by cashman

its not a case of blaming maggie, but what i would love to know is were you 2 slagging the torys when they were in power fer doing sod all? somehow i doubt it.

Ow'ed on a bit.................the answer to that as far as I am concerned is yes. I would slag anyone I thought was a prat and I did............The Tory's spent years trying to right the wrongs of the Labour Goverment before the emergence of Maggie.
I will probably get slated for this, but here goes.
Taxpayers were losing money hand over fist keeping the railways alive as with the mines, millions of pounds lost and subsadised , not by the government but the taxpayer.
Easy money from the IMF was not available then as the country was still paying off its debts for the second world war.
The country was on the verge of bankrupcy as it is today under a labour government......spending money you have not got is why we are in this mess now.
Some of us chose to call the Americans but if they had called the debt that was due to them on the due date, we would have been in deep crap.

cashman · 26-04-2009, 21:13

like i said to jaysay,i don't doubt that, i was refering to the plight of the gurkhas.

Royboy39 · 26-04-2009, 21:30

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Originally Posted by cashman

like i said to jaysay,i don't doubt that, i was refering to the plight of the gurkhas.

I think I was too.............but twelve years on and nothing.
The plight of the Gurhas is ongoing and there is no excuse for the current labour government to ignore the claim of these gallant men.
If GB can borrow money to keep the high paid nabobs of the civil service, then surely he can this situation on board.......probably I'ts beyond his Ken?

cashman · 26-04-2009, 22:15

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Originally Posted by Royboy39

I think I was too.............but twelve years on and nothing.
The plight of the Gurhas is ongoing and there is no excuse for the current labour government to ignore the claim of these gallant men.
If GB can borrow money to keep the high paid nabobs of the civil service, then surely he can this situation on board.......probably I'ts beyond his Ken?

i don't think ya was so i'll put it in plain english- were you slagging the tories back then fer completely ignoring the gurkhas? i have already said no excuse fer this governments disgraceful attempt. but at least they have made a start, abject as it is. Maggie did NOWT at all.

Greg Pope · 28-04-2009, 17:48

Thought you might like to know that this issue will be before the Commons tomorrow. There are motions down from the main parties but some backbench MPs (including me) will be tabling an amendment calling for justice for the Gurkhas. It will be interesting to see what happens.

cashman · 28-04-2009, 17:53

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Originally Posted by Greg Pope

Thought you might like to know that this issue will be before the Commons tomorrow. There are motions down from the main parties but some backbench MPs (including me) will be tabling an amendment calling for justice for the Gurkhas. It will be interesting to see what happens.

it will be very interesting, hope some good will come of it at the end of the day, my cynicism doubts it though.

Margaret Pilkington · 28-04-2009, 19:22

It is good to hear that all is not lost Greg. Power to your elbow.
I hope that we can see sense and let these brave men have the hospitality of our country....and chuck some of the other layabouts over the hedge

LYNX1 · 29-04-2009, 05:17

Got this e-mail yesterday if anyone would like to sign the on-line petition

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Subject: Gurkha Justice Campaign update from Joanna Lumley

> Thank you so much for your support of the Gurkha Justice campaign. We are
> overwhelmed by the support the campaign is receiving.
>
> As you may know, on Friday, the Government badly let down the Gurkhas. The
> new rules they have announced will exclude the huge majority of ex-Gurkhas
> who retired before 1997 from claiming citizenship in this country.
> They've given five bullet points that virtually cannot be met by the
> ordinary Gurkha soldier.
>
> It is so obvious that the treatment of the Gurkhas has been a great
> injustice. To treat them like this is despicable.
>
> The strong reaction by the public and press should show the Government
> that they simply cannot get away with this outrage.
>
> I'm ashamed of our adminstration. We will be challenging this decision in
> the courts and in Parliament. We will not stop now.
>
> This is not a party political campaign: it's simply one for justice. I am
> so grateful though for immediate support from MPs from all Parties,
> including amongst others Conservative leader David Cameron and Lib Dem
> Leader Nick Clegg.
>
> Nick Clegg has agreed to put a vote to Parliament this Wednesday calling
> for a fair deal for Gurkhas. This vote on its own won't change the
> Government's ruling, but would be an overwhelming signal to the Government
> that they need to think again.
>
> We need all MPs that support the Gurkha justice cause to turn up and vote
> for a proper deal for Gurkhas on Wednesday. Can I ask that you take a
> couple of minutes right now to ask your MP to do so?
>
> You can send a message to your MP directly at http://www.theyworkforyou.com
> please ask them to support the Gurkha Justice motion on Wednesday.
>
> On Wednesday, there will also be a Gurkha Justice rally and protest
> against the Government's decision, starting at noon in Old Palace Yard,
> Westminster. Many MPs have already committed to support the vote and join
> me and others at the rally. I know it's awfully short notice, but if you
> can, please do come along as well to add your support.
>
> If you can pass on this message to others as well that would be fabulous -
> and if they sign up to www.gurkhajustice.org.uk we can keep in touch with
> them directly in future.
>
> Lastly, again, thank you so much for your support. It means so much to us.
> I spoke today to Lt Madan Kumar Gurung, who has been at the forefront of
> the campaign since it began. He said to me that he has no fear for the
> Gurkhas any more, as he knows the loving hearts of the British people will
> not let them down. With your support we won't.
>
> With warmest good wishes,
>
> Joanna
>www.gurkhajustice.org.uk

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