Gypsies/travellers - Page 3

wayneyboy1942 · 18-03-2005, 18:08

Most travellers are roaming bands of scroungers and thives,but I've got alot of time for propper Gypsies,where I used to live we had a field and we would get a horsedrawn Gypsy caravan stay there every year going to Applebury fair,they were no trouble and only stayed a few days and were gone,these lot of tinkers will find the Human rights act very useful I'm sure!

StvKy · 18-03-2005, 18:13

and consider this, the travellers didn't make the laws

Tealeaf · 18-03-2005, 18:16

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and consider this, the travellers didn't make the laws

Nah...and they don't pay taxes, either. Then again,we no longer make laws. It's all done for us by those bandits in Brussels, and we abide by them whether we like it or not. Unlike our Traveller chums.

chav1 · 18-03-2005, 19:00

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there is one site down my lane and another new set up two miles away. when did accy become a nazi town?

were not a nazi town but people who spout crap like you do are the reson why they get away with so much

its bad enough we got less rights than criminals and imgrants but were also supposed to tollerat having less rights than these scum as well

they are not hated for living in caravans they are hated for been theiving dirty bastards

Bazf · 18-03-2005, 19:50

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there is one site down my lane and another new set up two miles away. when did accy become a nazi town?

From that quote it obviously isn't as there are 2 sites for the thieving Barstewards

StvKy · 18-03-2005, 19:56

Basf, I live just outside Evesham in Worcestershire, the closest site to me is Hipton Hill council site and the new illegal camp is at Wyre Piddle.

chav1 · 18-03-2005, 20:02

feel free to speak out about our problems when you live in our town please

your gypsies may clean up after themselves but the ones in accy most certainly didnt

KiTChener · 18-03-2005, 20:21

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tolerance people, tolerance.

C'mon, what planet you on...... or do you live in a caravan????

And do you leave your s**t for others to clear up??

WillowTheWhisp · 18-03-2005, 23:02

For about 6 weeks every summer I live in a caravan. The caravan is in a farmer's field. We have a tap for drinking water. Of course we create rubbish, but we act responsibly and put our rubbish into bags and deliver it to a designated area from where the council refuse department collect it. We pay an annual fee for the privilege of staying in that field. When we leave, we leave the field and surrounding area exactly as we found it.

One summer we were invaded by undesirables. They camped about six inches from my windbreak and actually blocked the opening which we walk through to get out! They helped themselves to things from the farm yard and to the steps from our caravan to build a barbeque on! When they left (following a dispute with other campers) they left an area of rubbish about the size of a six man tent!

Several families and individuals camp in that field every summer on a regular basis, other people come and go as a one-off. The difference with this family and the rest of us is the same as the difference between the lot who set up camp on the Aldi car park and the old fashioned Romany Gipsies who were/are a proud and noble people. The people we object to are those who make life a misery for the rest of us. Their chosen way of life isn't the problem. It's the contempt with which they treat the rest of society. If I walked into someone's house, lived there for a while, ate their food and left the house full of rubbish wouldn't they have a right to complain? If on the other hand I rent a room at a B&B, pay for my bed and breakfast and leave the place clean and tidy there would be no problem. THAT is the difference.

Tinkerbelle · 18-03-2005, 23:12

The thing that makes me laugh, they don't pay any tax, they leave the place in a right mess but have you seen inside some of their caravans some of them are gorgeous. It showed one on a TV interview lovely white leather suite, loads of expensive ornaments but i suppose they can afford it when they don't pay the bills everyone else has too!!!

chav1 · 19-03-2005, 00:00

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The thing that makes me laugh, they don't pay any tax, they leave the place in a right mess but have you seen inside some of their caravans some of them are gorgeous. It showed one on a TV interview lovely white leather suite, loads of expensive ornaments but i suppose they can afford it when they don't pay the bills everyone else has too!!!

stolen goods are cheap

its even cheaper when your the person doing the stealing

Busman747 · 19-03-2005, 01:47

Many moons back (about 30 years) I started off married life in a mobile home on a static site. I paid through the nose for the site, and amenities like water etc and then the gov of the day declared that we should pay rates on mobile homes despite us not having brick walls or security. They even sent an inspector round to check how many rooms were in the mobile home so as to work out how much extra we should be charged.

At the same time, a "permanent" site was arranged for the travellers just 2 miles away and with the agreement of the council, they paid nothing at all in rates "as there was a need to settle these people down" They had electricity, water and sewage pipes laid on at vast cost to US .......and they used it like a holiday home! If you are passing, chuck your van on this concrete slab, use the amenities and move on in three months.

It was a no-go area for anyone that wasn't a traveller and the council tried to put a manager in charge......but after the first one left,(rather quickly) no one would take on the job!

The site is still thriving, local pubs and shops ban them from entering their premises, and the site is a total mess..........but they are there to stay!!!!

Acrylic-bob · 19-03-2005, 08:17

According to Liverpool University, there are 23,000 irish tinkers in the Republic of Ireland, 7,000 in Northern Ireland and 15,000 in mainland UK.

In the links below there are a couple of news items that should give us all cause for concern and something to consider when the election comes around. There is an online petition to John Prescott for you to sign, and there is the story of the villagers of Cambridge and their campaign against travellers. Enjoy!

Article here re: John Prescott and travellers “rights”

http://www.conservatives.com/tile.do?def=news.story.page&obj_id=120453&speeches =1
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And another…

http://society.guardian.co.uk/localgovt/story/0,7890,1433321,00.html
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There is a petition to sign here…

http://www.petitiononline.com/CEN/petition.html
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And there are pages of stuff here and a good idea to force councils to change their minds – Withold your Council Tax…

http://www.middleenglandinrevolt.co.uk/index.html
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Victory of sorts. This is a follow up to the story in the previous link

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/cambridgeshire/4340567.stm

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WillowTheWhisp · 19-03-2005, 09:12

Oh how I agree with Philip Hammond. And what's all this about travellers just want to settle down and find work and send their children to school? It's not April 1st yet is it?

chav1 · 19-03-2005, 16:05

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Oh how I agree with Philip Hammond. And what's all this about travellers just want to settle down and find work and send their children to school? It's not April 1st yet is it?

no but its still a bloody joke