gypsy's....again - Page 14

MargaretR · 18-03-2009, 21:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by mallard

well there is some round from me on the heys lane,but they payed for that land and they have made it nice.

This is news to me - I realise that I haven't been out much for the past seven months so may have missed it but - just where on Heys Lane do you mean

PS I am on the estate with 'bird named' streets too, and so is Jaysay

churchman phil · 18-03-2009, 21:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman

went to the sports centre yesterday 5 caravans on the top car park, litter strewn everywhere, WHY is this allowed?

The law as it stands says that councils have to apply for an eviction order which takes up to two weeks to acquire before it can be served. These people know that and in the main will usually move on just before it is produced. The problem is they can move around the corner and the council has to go through the process all over again cos they ain't in the place the original order stipulated!!
What is needed is a fast-track eviction procedure - under 24 / 48 hours - that covers the entire borough. maybe then they may get fed up of being moved on constantly and do something about it.
I also think if they get served three notices by the same borough council they should have property (caravan?) seized to pay for clear-ups and costs.
But that ain't within their human rights is it?.....

BERNADETTE · 18-03-2009, 22:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman

went to the sports centre yesterday 5 caravans on the top car park, litter strewn everywhere, WHY is this allowed?

Intended mentioning this myself walked through this afternoon and there are six caravans now. Agree with you it is a damn disgrace that they get away with doing this over and over again

cashman · 18-03-2009, 22:09

this in fact is n issue ALL our local councilors should be tackling TOGETHER, whatever that entails.

Royboy39 · 18-03-2009, 22:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman

this in fact is n issue ALL our local councilors should be tackling TOGETHER, whatever that entails.

Why not employ the illegal parking cowboys and clamp em? that should be interesting.

cashman · 18-03-2009, 22:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Royboy39

Why not employ the illegal parking cowboys and clamp em? that should be interesting.

would probably suit em, they would be stationary then.

Royboy39 · 18-03-2009, 22:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman

would probably suit em, they would be stationary then.

And then send the Baliffs in...again an interesting senario?

cashman · 18-03-2009, 22:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Royboy39

And then send the Baliffs in...again an interesting senario?

nah S.A.S. roy, baliffs would not cut it wi some of those guys, ive seen bare knuckle videos.

made by them.

Royboy39 · 18-03-2009, 22:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman

nah S.A.S. roy, baliffs would not cut it wi some of those guys, ive seen bare knuckle videos.

made by them.

So have I...are they then deemed as lawless untouchables or are our chosen ones going to sort them out?
Council problem?
Police problem?
EU problem....who knows?

cashman · 18-03-2009, 22:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Royboy39

So have I...are they then deemed as lawless untouchables or are our chosen ones going to sort them out?
Council problem?
Police problem?
EU problem....who knows?

think the fact is, the police would deal with the problem if the suited ******* would cut through the Red-Tape n Bullshine n let them? just my opinion.

Royboy39 · 18-03-2009, 22:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman

think the fact is, the police would deal with the problem if the suited ******* would cut through the Red-Tape n Bullshine n let them? just my opinion.

Cashy you are absolutely spot on. 'Rules of engagement' apply to civilian applications as they do in military applications....getting permission from the 'suits' as you call them must be overcome. Give the responsibility to the ground forces, never mind the legal clap trap....put laws in place that prohibits land grab for convenience and put penalties on dumping rubbish on land that has been utilised without permission by these people.

jaysay · 19-03-2009, 10:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by churchman phil

The law as it stands says that councils have to apply for an eviction order which takes up to two weeks to acquire before it can be served. These people know that and in the main will usually move on just before it is produced. The problem is they can move around the corner and the council has to go through the process all over again cos they ain't in the place the original order stipulated!!
What is needed is a fast-track eviction procedure - under 24 / 48 hours - that covers the entire borough. maybe then they may get fed up of being moved on constantly and do something about it.
I also think if they get served three notices by the same borough council they should have property (caravan?) seized to pay for clear-ups and costs.
But that ain't within their human rights is it?.....

I know they have to reapply for an eviction order every time, not sure if it takes two weeks though churchman. I have said for a long time that councils should be allowed to take out an injunction on a piece of land that lasts for 12 months and can be renewed every year,or in other words cut out the red tape, but it would take government legislation to do it, and I'm not sure where on the list of priorities this would come on any government agenda

MargaretR · 19-03-2009, 10:37

Jaysay - where did Mallard mean when she said they are on Heys Lane?(post#195)

jaysay · 19-03-2009, 11:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by MargaretR

Jaysay - where did Mallard mean when she said they are on Heys Lane?(post#195)

I'm not sure Margaret I'm like you I ain't been out much for a few months, the only thing I can think of is that land next to the church building opposite the Heys Pub, there's was planning permission given for a bungalow and so many caravans and a shower block a few years ago, that's the only one that comes to mind

churchman phil · 19-03-2009, 12:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay

I know they have to reapply for an eviction order every time, not sure if it takes two weeks though churchman. I have said for a long time that councils should be allowed to take out an injunction on a piece of land that lasts for 12 months and can be renewed every year,or in other words cut out the red tape, but it would take government legislation to do it, and I'm not sure where on the list of priorities this would come on any government agenda

That would be a good idea re the injunction. Could they not make it borough wide though??

The two weeks is from an Obby report where they interviewed someone about it. It is one of those useless things that sticks in the head and you tend to not forget!!