gypsy's....again - Page 8

Tealeaf · 06-11-2007, 13:27

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Originally Posted by Neil

T. I can't see the Commercial pub ever being used, it is just and eyesore.

Just shows your lack of imagination.

garinda · 06-11-2007, 13:35

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf

As usual, Garinda is wrong. The houses that were pulled down in the late '70's were in the old Henry/Walmsley/Ernest street area. Unusually, many of these were brick faced and of a very poor 19c construction; few at the time had indoor bath/toilet facilities. These dwellings were certainly of no architectural merit and it was far more cost effective to pull 'em down.

The demolition of some of those replacement houses more recently was simply as part of the Church Gateway improvement plan, although it is somewhat debatable as to whether this exercise should have been carried out in the absence of a fully funded scheme.

Very few Victorian terraces were built in Lancashire with indoor bathrooms, my present house included. Those house in Church could easily have been improved to offer the modern amenities we've come to expect.

As for their architectural merit, there were probably similar Philistines who thought that the terraced artisans cottages in Battersea in London, should have been demolioshed in the sixties. All of which originally had no indoor bathrooms, but which are now seen as very desirable homes, and easily sell for over half a miilion quid.

I stand by my statement that the older houses in Church were better built than their replacements, which only managed a life of twenty odd years, as opposed to a hundred.

A simple case of economics.

MargaretR · 06-11-2007, 14:04

As long as Wm Bythes is still operational, there is no point building ANYTHING within half a mile!!!

Neil · 06-11-2007, 15:41

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf

Just shows your lack of imagination.

Or the local planning committee, I thought they kept rejecting all the proposals. I stand by my statement that it is an eyesore.

Maybe any building left unused for x years should be demolished. Like the fire station in Ossy.

WillowTheWhisp · 06-11-2007, 16:29

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As long as Wm Bythes is still operational, there is no point building ANYTHING within half a mile!!!

That hasn't stopped housing developers up to now.

Lilly · 06-11-2007, 16:39

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Originally Posted by blazey

got this off dictionary.net

In England, a hamlet denotes a collection of houses, too small to have a parish church. A village has a church, but no market. A town has both a market and a church or churches. A city is, in the legal sense, an incorporated borough town, which is, or has been, the place of a bishop's see. In the United States these distinctions do not hold

Playing by those rules then I suppose Ossy would be classed as a village but I have lived here for over 25 years and never heard it referred to as such.

I know that Huncoat, Green Haworth and Belthorn are villages but I always thought of Ossy as a town.

MargaretR · 06-11-2007, 16:51

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp

That hasn't stopped housing developers up to now.

The houses that were demolished had been used as a ghetto for bad tenants - much to the annoyance of good tenants nearby. It will take time for that reputation to fade.
Now that people are more aware of pollution hazards, there would be difficulties encountered in persuading prospective owners or tenants to live there if they rebuilt.
The Gateway scheme has been abandoned because of the proximity of Blythes, so why should any developer be interested in doing ANYTHING with it?
The nearby derelict property should be demolished and the area landscaped to improve the area for the good tenants who are still there, ensuring that access by caravans is blocked.

WillowTheWhisp · 06-11-2007, 17:28

I wonder if there is any way of tackling it from the opposite direction and reducing the polution?

BERNADETTE · 06-11-2007, 17:48

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp

That hasn't stopped housing developers up to now.

It will do in future Willow, there are new guidelines in place regarding building to near to Blythes.

blazey · 07-11-2007, 00:18

I like the commercial hotel and dont want it ripped down. This may be just me but I saw it mentioned, and I think its a good building, needs a hell of alot of investment though, but it could be a good point for church with the right backing.

Neil · 07-11-2007, 21:00

I still think the Commercial is an eyesore and has been for too long. It some come down along with the empty shops opposite and the post office. If fact the whole area should be flattened and a decent road junction built there instead of that crazy bottleneck we currently have.

blazey · 07-11-2007, 22:56

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Originally Posted by Neil

I still think the Commercial is an eyesore and has been for too long. It some come down along with the empty shops opposite and the post office. If fact the whole area should be flattened and a decent road junction built there instead of that crazy bottleneck we currently have.

Wont the people living in church have to walk ages to get to a post office then? That seems a bit unfair

WillowTheWhisp · 07-11-2007, 23:01

Blythes is the problem in Church so something needs to be done about Blythes.

madmal_1 · 08-11-2007, 00:52

a bit of track you lot it, supposed about gypsies

blazey · 08-11-2007, 16:18

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Originally Posted by madmal_1

a bit of track you lot it, supposed about gypsies

Well its gone from one problem in an area to other problems, and its a bit nicer to just talk about horrible buildings causing a problem than actual people, so its not as off track as some of the threads go