Hacker loses extradition battle

[Tealeaf]

Irrespective of the aspergers excuse, it would appear that everyone is making the assumption that this character simply hacked into the Pentagon files and had a good look around. However, if the rumours which I have heard are true, then he did substancially more than that. You may possibly find details of these rumours on Google - I have not looked - but quite honestly, if true this guy is a menace and needs to be locked up for a very long time. It is no wonder the US government is seeking to get it's hands on him and the UK government - while paying lip service to the human rights brigade - will ultimately let him go.

I believe that quite a few MP's are aware of the tale of what this guy actually did. If Greg Pope is one of them and he reads this, I wonder if he would like to comment?

[accyman]

there is no reason to be in anyone elses computer regardless of wether it be a private or public computer.People sticking up for this guy sure wouldnt be doing so if he hacked into tehir computers and i bet everyone who encounters a virus would like to wring the neck of who created it and wouldnt really care what trumped up illness they claimed to have.

what if he had decided that for fun he would hack airport computer systems and caused deaths would his illness still be an acceptable excuse then?

[Greg Pope]

Further to Tealeaf's point I strongly believe that the Home Secretary is doing the right thing. This was raised in the House of Commons yesterday and the Home Secretary's speech makes interesting reading: http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200910/cmhansrd/cm091201/debtext/91201-0004.htm#09120144000002

[accyman]

He is alleged to have repeatedly hacked into US Government computer networks over a period of 13 months, including 97 US military computers from which he deleted vital operating systems and then copied encrypted information on to his own computer, shutting down the entire US army's military district of Washington's computer network for 24 hours.

the guys a cyber terrorist and i hope they throw the key away after they lock him up, he didnt just take a nosey around he deliberatly crippled a section of americas military network and stole encrypted information which i have no doubt he will have probably tried to crack or he woudnt have copied the files

[Neil]

Originally Posted by Greg Pope

Further to Tealeaf's point I strongly believe that the Home Secretary is doing the right thing. This was raised in the House of Commons yesterday and the Home Secretary's speech makes interesting reading: http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200910/cmhansrd/cm091201/debtext/91201-0004.htm#09120144000002

Thanks for that info.

This bit interests me.

Should Mr. McKinnon be extradited, charged and convicted in the US and seek repatriation to the UK to serve his sentence in this country, the Government will progress his application at the very earliest opportunity.

Why would we want the expense of keeping him in prison for something he did in the US?

[accyman]

Originally Posted by Neil

Thanks for that info.

This bit interests me.



Why would we want the expense of keeping him in prison for something he did in the US?

its called a crowd pleaser to appease those guilable enough to believe his alleged disorder had anything to do with his crime

a few years without a computer and tossing big bubba's salad would probably do him teh world of good

[Guinness]

Firstly…the original point is that the UK has allowed itself to be manoeuvred into an imbalanced treaty where they can extradite from us without trial, but we cannot extradite from them without trial. And that remains unanswered unless you accept Alan Johnsons comment of this issue being ‘academic’

Secondly… this ‘cyber terrorist’ is alleged to have done all the US accuse him of from a remote server, using a basic password hack program that a child of 10 can set up, on a 56k dial up modem. Do you seriously believe that the mighty United States of America’s security system is that inadequate?

Thirdly…I'm amazed how readily people believe the U.S. government is telling the truth on this issue, yet believe they have lied over WMD, Afghanistan, 9/11 and the 1969 moon landings.

As for the ‘confession’ that he had infiltrated all these systems, destroyed all this information, brought Washington to a standstill, caused black Monday, aids, typhus etc..etc..….anyone recall that guy with mental issues who ‘confessed’ to a crime he didn’t commit and spent the best part of his life in jail before DNA proved his innocence who died recently.

I may be gullible but I do not have to resort to crude sexual innuendo to make a point and I also know that Mckinnon is constantly monitored and hasn’t had access to the internet for over 7 years.

[MargaretR]

Governments lie as a matter of course.
I think that the extent of the damage may well have been exaggerated in order to procure this extradition and deter others
...they have made him a 'patsy' (they've done it before many times)

[Tealeaf]

Originally Posted by Guinness

Thirdly…I'm amazed how readily people believe the U.S. government is telling the truth on this issue, yet believe they have lied over WMD, Afghanistan, 9/11 and the 1969 moon landings.

As for the ‘confession’ that he had infiltrated all these systems, destroyed all this information, brought Washington to a standstill, caused black Monday, aids, typhus etc..etc..….anyone recall that guy with mental issues who ‘confessed’ to a crime he didn’t commit and spent the best part of his life in jail before DNA proved his innocence who died recently.

I may be gullible but I do not have to resort to crude sexual innuendo to make a point and I also know that Mckinnon is constantly monitored and hasn’t had access to the internet for over 7 years.

Another Conspiracy nutter......they're taking over...unless it's Margaret with a new pen-name trying to confuse us.

[MargaretR]

Originally Posted by Tealeaf

Another Conspiracy nutter......they're taking over...unless it's Margaret with a new pen-name.

We prefer the name - 'truthers'

[shillelagh]

he knew he was doing wrong .. so should face the consequences .. same like a child nicking a sweet from the local shop, the same as a teenager breaking a window, the same as a bloke kicking in a door when in a temper .. there is always consequences if you break the law .. and hes admitted he knew what he was doing was wrong .. so to face the consequences...

[cashman]

Originally Posted by shillelagh

he knew he was doing wrong .. so should face the consequences .. same like a child nicking a sweet from the local shop, the same as a teenager breaking a window, the same as a bloke kicking in a door when in a temper .. there is always consequences if you break the law .. and hes admitted he knew what he was doing was wrong .. so to face the consequences...

Hopefully he will, unless the do-gooders win a do.

[BERNADETTE]

Originally Posted by cashman

Hopefully he will, unless the do-gooders win a do.

What again?

[Guinness]

Originally Posted by Tealeaf

Another Conspiracy nutter......they're taking over...unless it's Margaret with a new pen-name trying to confuse us.

And your sole brief on this was what some guy told you in the pub last night based on what Alan Johnson said in parliament

If i'm a 'conspiracy nutter' because I dont believe the US government and UK parliament always tell the truth then I willingly accept the label.

Edit..btw I was speaking about some of the posters on this thread who disbelieve 9/11 and moon landings who are willing to believe the US in this matter and I exclude myself from this

[Eric]

By the way, has this guy had a trial yet?