Hacker loses extradition battle - Page 4

accyman · 02-12-2009, 19:21

i would expect him to go to prison even if he was only hacking a member of teh publics computer and i couldnt care less how basic the program was that he was using to hack computers he was still hacking and hackers are nasty little sh1ts who invade other peoples privacy, steal email user accounts/passwords and much worse so deserve everything they get and more

if you steal a penny chew from a shop it is the same crime as if you stole a top of the range tv from a shop so screw him and his boo hoo sob story, you dont accidently become a hacker you have to deliberatly set out to learn how to be a vindictive little sh1t

cashman · 02-12-2009, 19:29

some don't seem to think so accyman, some use the excuse of a one-sided extradition treaty, which it is n its wrong in my view, but as you say hacking is invading someones privacy, some seem to forget the act. still any excuse fer a conspiricy, sod him deserves all he gets.

accyman · 02-12-2009, 19:36

i would much rather see him go to an american prison they know how to treat prisoners over there and of course big bubba's salad wont toss its self so get him over there asap lol

Guinness · 02-12-2009, 20:10

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Originally Posted by Eric

By the way, has this guy had a trial yet?

Only on accringtonweb.com

SPUGGIE J · 02-12-2009, 20:10

If all avenues of judicial scrutiny have been followed to the letter with no recourse that they got it wrong then he has to be extradited. I may believe that the treaty is one sided but as it looks like its been done by the book then he has to face his accusers to prove he was incapable of understanding what he did to the American judicial system. It is America he he has to convince as they are the victim and the only way is to be over there. To do what he did needs knowledge and understanding on how to hack in the first place thus he had understanding of what he was doing. So if he understood what to do to get in the system then why dosnt he know it was wrong? Wonder if a burglar will try the same line the next time they are caught?

SPUGGIE J · 02-12-2009, 20:15

People seem to forget that different countries have different legal systems that work different. At the height of the English Empire then you had basically the same rights and legal system. We have now moved on from that so you are treated as the legal system of that country has been set up.

Would you expext to be treated under English law if you broke the law in France Germany Spain Israel Mexico or Brazil?

Neil · 02-12-2009, 20:28

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Originally Posted by SPUGGIE J

Would you expext to be treated under English law if you broke the law in France Germany Spain Israel Mexico or Brazil?

I think it is a difficult one to decide where he broke the law and where he should stand trial.

Guinness · 02-12-2009, 20:40

Ok, my last plea, then the defence rests...

FACT...The government that claims this guy is a cyber terrorist and did all this damage is the same government that claimed that saddam hussein had weapons of mass destruction.

FACT....The judicial system that he will be tried under is the same one that allowed miscarriages of justice so that OJ Simpson and Michael Jackson could play their get out of jail free cards, yet still holds people in Guantanemo Bay without trial.

FACT...The alleged crime was carried out in this country not in the US.

FACT...And finally..regardless of what you believe to be the truth about the case... we have a biased extradition treaty, and that the current labour home secretary describes this bias as 'academic'.

Airstrip One looms ever closer.

cashman · 02-12-2009, 20:42

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Originally Posted by Neil

I think it is a difficult one to decide where he broke the law and where he should stand trial.

i think its as clear as can be in these circumstances, he hacked into the pentagon computers therefore answerable to the yanks. thats the only fact that matters guiness.

SPUGGIE J · 02-12-2009, 20:49

Guinness if a guy sent you an invasive program to your computer that stole your personal details and used that fraudulently then were would you want him tried in the country of origin or here?

accyman · 02-12-2009, 21:10

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Originally Posted by Guinness

Ok, my last plea, then the defence rests...

FACT...The government that claims this guy is a cyber terrorist and did all this damage is the same government that claimed that saddam hussein had weapons of mass destruction.

WRONG - havnt you heard they elected a black dude since iraq

different leader and different govenment and whatever happened over iraq has absolutely nothing to do with this case what so ever

SPUGGIE J · 02-12-2009, 21:15

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Originally Posted by accyman

WRONG havnt you heard they elected a black dude since iraq

different leader and different govenment

Guinness is several years behind us on world events. That and owning a very narrow field of view blinkers.

cashman · 02-12-2009, 21:17

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Originally Posted by SPUGGIE J

Guinness is several years behind us on world events. That and owning a very narrow field of view blinkers.

And that is a FACT!

Guinness · 02-12-2009, 21:27

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Originally Posted by accyman

WRONG - havnt you heard they elected a black dude since iraq

different leader and different govenment and whatever happened over iraq has absolutely nothing to do with this case what so ever

Try to actually research before you post, these events happened in 2001-2002. Ergo same government!

Talk about herd mentality in accrington..2 posts in rapid succession follow blindly making the same error.

Seems like you guys need to read more instead of playing forum games

Gordie · 02-12-2009, 21:28

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Originally Posted by MargaretR

....and what he was looking for should never have been a secret in the first place

You tell them Margaret