Hacker loses extradition battle - Page 6

Eric · 03-12-2009, 03:27

Several years ago, overwhelming majorities in the US Senate and the House passed a bill barring US aid to countries that refuse requests for extradition ... American requests that is. The only concern voiced was that the bill would theoretically bar aid to the US client state of Israel because of its refusal to extradict a man charged with a murder in Maryland in 1979, I think. The man, I can't remember his name; will have to look it up, had fled to Israel and claimed citizenship thro' his father. It seems like the US treats its client states differently.

If the man has broken the laws of the United Kingdom, which he probably has, then he should be tried in Britain. And if found guilty, he should serve whatever time he is given in a British jail. I still believe that the "cruel and unusual punishment" argument applies.

And for those who seem to think that the admittedly tough US prison system works, look at the crime rate in that country. And, incidently, consider such questions as: Why is it that one in five of black American males is, or has been in, the US prison system.

And before I shut up and head off to the fridge for a beer, the US routinely sends convicted Canadians back to Canada to serve their sentences. Not in all cases, but enough. Betcha Conrad Black wishes he hadn't given up his Canadian Citizenship.

steeljack · 03-12-2009, 05:10

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: Why is it that one in five of black American males is, or has been in, the US prison system.

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try being a liberal and live in/near Oakland California , sorry I ran out of excuses years ago , still go to Joanie Baez concerts but the delusion that "it's the mans fault" doesn't work anymore

Eric · 03-12-2009, 05:41

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try being a liberal and live in/near Oakland California , sorry I ran out of excuses years ago , still go to Joanie Baez concerts but the delusion that "it's the mans fault" doesn't work anymore

Know what you mean ... but, the problem is more complex than a lot of folks think; and, I suspect that you realise this .... in the sense that it is not that a particular "race" is more inately criminal than another, but, that over the years, racism has pushed a particular group to the margins of society. And it at these margins that crime becomes a way of life, rather than an aberration. We have the same problem up here. First Nations' people are over represented in the prison population. We look at it as a social problem, not a racial one.

SPUGGIE J · 03-12-2009, 07:05

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Guinness if a guy sent you an invasive program to your computer that stole your personal details and used that fraudulently then were would you want him tried in the country of origin or here?

This question was not a cheap shot but one that was asking you that if in the same position as the US government what would you want. Would he/she be tried where the crime was committed based on your country of residence or the country were he/she was resident at the time. He might not have committed in the eyes of our judicial system but has gone through due process for extradition to the country that views it as a serious defence. If I threw a brick through the window of a house in England I would be tried and convicted in England even if I planned it here were i live in Scotland. It is possible to be in Scotland and still throw the brick over the border at a house so should I get away with it because I lobbed it from my side of the border?

shillelagh · 04-12-2009, 17:12

BBC News - UFO investigations unit closed by Ministry of Defence

so what will mr mckinnon think about this ..

accyman · 04-12-2009, 17:17

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BBC News - UFO investigations unit closed by Ministry of Defence

so what will mr mckinnon think about this ..

if they had been looking at our boarders for illigal aliens instea dof the sky for the past god knows how many years we may have a few less of them running around