Happy New Mosque

[WillowTheWhisp]

Originally Posted by Ianto.W.

Tollerance, freedom of speech, good questions, firstly tollerance is not in the Arab/Moslem vocabulary, and 'no' freedom of speech will be allowed, if we the indigenous people of this land keep bending to the will of the (Ethnic Minorities).

My muslim neighbours are very tolerant.

[Ianto.W.]

I'm not saying all the ethnic minorities are intollerant willow, it is the new element that are taking liberties and giving the rest a hard time, I am not and never have been racist i'm half Jewish my mother was a Jew, I have no axe to grind with anyone that will at least meet us half way,but chucking the race card about like confetti as soon as you slightly tread on a toe realy bugs me. 'Going off thread', if (Bollybitch) had called (Goodybitch) a washed up Eccles Cake eater, would 45,000 people rung in and cried racist, I very much doubt it.

[Church Boy]

Originally Posted by Billcat

Talk about a tough test of tolerance!

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See what I mean,Freedom of speech is a beautiful thing,but tolerance is a much harder human capability for some people.Sorry Billcat,You just ain't got it.

[Ianto.W.]

Originally Posted by Church Boy

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See what I mean,Freedom of speech is a beautiful thing,but tolerance is a much harder human capability for some people.Sorry Billcat,You just ain't got it.

And apparently neither have I Church Boy, you have got me baffled as well .

[Church Boy]

Originally Posted by Ianto.W.

And apparently neither have I Church Boy, you have got me baffled as well .

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Ianto.Self confessions should only be made in the confessional,But if you aren't tolerant either,God will forgive you my son.

[Ianto.W.]

Originally Posted by Church Boy

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Ianto.Self confessions should only be made in the confessional,But if you aren't tolerant either,God will forgive you my son.

Confessing is not part of my religion or my make-up, but it's good to have differences of opinion, and even better to be called 'my son' by someone 11 years my junior. I am a very tollerant man, as all my ex wives will 'not' testify to. Regards 'My Son', Ianto.W.

[WillowTheWhisp]

Originally Posted by Ianto.W.

'Going off thread', if (Bollybitch) had called (Goodybitch) a washed up Eccles Cake eater, would 45,000 people rung in and cried racist, I very much doubt it.

It wouldn't have been racist, any more than Jade was racist. She was showing ignorance and being a bully. Being half Jewish doesn't make you less capable of being racist any more than being part black prevents Jade.

You did however give me food for thought - to use both your points - if planning permission had been granted for a synagogue in Clitheroe do you think it would have warranted this length of a thread on AccyWeb?

[Ianto.W.]

There were actually two threads on this subject willow, it cost me some 'brownie points' for raising the second one, to answer your very valid questions, With the first one about Jade being part Black and myself being half Jewish, we would not have made the 'song and dance' the Moslems did about such a trivial matter. Second point planning permission for a Synagogue would have had to go through the same procedure, as would a Mormon Temple, or any other religious persuasion. The point being would they have had all the aggro the Moslems had? NO.

[Church Boy]

Originally Posted by Ianto.W.

Confessing is not part of my religion or my make-up, but it's good to have differences of opinion, and even better to be called 'my son' by someone 11 years my junior. I am a very tollerant man, as all my ex wives will 'not' testify to. Regards 'My Son', Ianto.W.

Sorry, you randy old ******.You Rock.

[WillowTheWhisp]

Originally Posted by Ianto.W.

Second point planning permission for a Synagogue would have had to go through the same procedure, as would a Mormon Temple, or any other religious persuasion. The point being would they have had all the aggro the Moslems had? NO.

I'd just like to clarify so that people don't misunderstand. Mormon Sunday services and Sunday school classes take place in a church/chapel. Our nearest purpose built one is in Blackburn. At other times we have rented rooms in a wide variety of places including AccyTown Hall, Moorhead School, Darwen Vale School and the Masonic Lodge in Ossy. I'm not aware that we've ever had much aggro with any of those.

The Temple is a different thing entirely. We only have 2 in this country. The nearest is in Chorley and we did get quite a bit of opposition to it being built when it was in the planning stages mainly because people assumed things like it would bring down the house prices in the area (actually they went up) or that Chorley would be full of Americans (not really, it's for the Mormons of this country not for an overseas invasion) Once it was built we had some militant objectors from other churches but they were just making themselves look foolish with some of the silly nonsense they published about us. Some of the objections were more like queries and they were valid because people were concerned about a possible blot on the landscape - until they became aware of possible alternative blots if the church didn't buy the land for the temple. I think ours turned out to be the least of all possible blots.

The point is that some people object not because they actually know what they're objecting to, but because they think they know, or because they just object to a group of people regardless of whether it will affect their own lives or not.

[Billcat]

Originally Posted by Church Boy

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See what I mean,Freedom of speech is a beautiful thing,but tolerance is a much harder human capability for some people.Sorry Billcat,You just ain't got it.

What ARE you babbling about? Your posts aren't making much sense.

"Speaking of love, one problem that recurs more and more frequently these days in books,and plays,and movies on, is the inability of people to communicate with the people they love. Husbands and wives who can't communicate; children who can't communicate with their parents, and so on. And the characters in these books, and plays, and so on, and in real life, I might add, spend hours bemoaning the fact that they can't communicate. I feel that if a person can't communicate the very least he can do is to shut up." - Tom Lehrer

[Church Boy]

Originally Posted by Billcat

What ARE you babbling about? Your posts aren't making much sense.

"Speaking of love, one problem that recurs more and more frequently these days in books,and plays,and movies on, is the inability of people to communicate with the people they love. Husbands and wives who can't communicate; children who can't communicate with their parents, and so on. And the characters in these books, and plays, and so on, and in real life, I might add, spend hours bemoaning the fact that they can't communicate. I feel that if a person can't communicate the very least he can do is to shut up." - Tom Lehrer

Yawn,Yawn,Yawn,
God allmighty,You are actually such a bore.Longwinded speeches like that just don't cut it.Go read another book.Enjoy.

[Ianto.W.]

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WillowTheWhisp, I think ours turned out to be the least of all possible blots.

I thought you had a place in Accrington willow, but my misses says that was Christian Scientists, she said it was for barmy beggars like me, seriously though that Temple at Chorley is a grand building, well worth a look at.

[Billcat]

Originally Posted by Church Boy

Yawn,Yawn,Yawn,
God allmighty,You are actually such a bore.Longwinded speeches like that just don't cut it.Go read another book.Enjoy.

More Church Boy blather! Talk about not cutting it.

At least we who read books learn the value of clarity in our writing! While we may on occasion be boring, there is nothing so boring as folks who make no sense at all!

[Church Boy]

Billcat.
I take your criticism with a grain of salt.Also your admitance of Boredom isn't surprising to me.Many people enjoy reading books,And its usually the Reader who can't think for themselves that Quote them.