HBC at it again

[garinda]

Originally Posted by garinda

Unless you 'know', any input isn't really much use here, is it?

Sort of like posting guess work...or spin.

I'll eat my jaunty little hat if this consultancy firm used by the council, received no money from the public purse for their efforts.

Oh, and by the way, welcome back, Cllr. Kenneth.

Accy Web without you is like an eighties Lambeth Council, without Linda Bellos.

Every court needs a jester, to keep the laughs coming.



Even if it is unintentionally.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany

...they should also have a go at the Lardies (for the sake of equality & all that guff) & make sure no ones shoving burgers, chips or even pop down their grids too.

Babies round here aren't raised on the nipple.

There's much less painful chafing if you use a Gregg's sausage roll.

[DaveinGermany]

Originally Posted by garinda

Babies round here aren't raised on the nipple.

There's much less painful chafing if you use a Gregg's sausage roll.

That's disgusting, unless it's smeared in HP, which would just about make it edible !

[garinda]

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany

That's disgusting, unless it's smeared in HP, which would just about make it edible !

They only suckle sausage rolls until they're fully weaned.

Then they're old enough to manage a Big Mac and fries.

[DaveinGermany]

Originally Posted by garinda

They only suckle sausage rolls until they're fully weaned.

Then they're old enough to manage a Big Mac and fries.

Ah, the step up from pulp to solids.

[Less]

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany

Ah, the step up from pulp to solids.

Eat your XXXXXXX Fries or you won't get an ice bun for desert you little XXXXX!

Please note, in the interest of animal care, when administering an ice bun avoid the ones with currants in them as these could choke the pigeons when the little darlin' leaves a trail of crumbs behind his pushchair.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Ken Moss

I sincerely doubt that we have spent money on this, it has been looked at through the Communities O&S committee which doesn't have a budget. We've been lobbied recently by an anti-smoking group and it seems more likely that they have done the research and given us the results as they came to give a presentation at the last Cabinet meeting with supporting figures.

A simple FOI request will tell you what you need to know without any spin.

No matter what you say Kenneth, there is no such thing as a free lunch, somebody will have paid for this survey, you say it hasn't cost HBC anything, well it will have been paid for out of public money somewhere along the line, these people don't work for nout, nor do they work for peanuts either, its always the taxpayer who foots the bill, that means the man in the street will have paid for it one way or another. If the people who sanction these surveys had to pay for them out of their own pocket, there wouldn't be too many undertaken, but its not their money throw it about like confetti

[Barrie Yates]

Originally Posted by Ken Moss

I sincerely doubt that we have spent money on this, it has been looked at through the Communities O&S committee which doesn't have a budget. We've been lobbied recently by an anti-smoking group and it seems more likely that they have done the research and given us the results as they came to give a presentation at the last Cabinet meeting with supporting figures.

A simple FOI request will tell you what you need to know without any spin.

If this was commisioned by someone other than HBC then how did this come about -"Coun McCormack said that would have to be balanced with practical issues.
She said: “We included that question to gauge how strongly people felt about smoking, but we have to consider the effects."

[Ken Moss]

Originally Posted by Barrie Yates

If this was commisioned by someone other than HBC then how did this come about -"Coun McCormack said that would have to be balanced with practical issues.
She said: “We included that question to gauge how strongly people felt about smoking, but we have to consider the effects."

The honest answer Barrie is that I don't know, it's not my committee. However, since that committee has no budget it seems unlikely that they would have commissioned a survey, particularly in view of the recent lobbying by external parties. It's a nationwide issue in any case, at the moment government is looking to implement plain packaging on cigarette packets so it could be part of that. I haven't been part of it directly so I'm really not the best person to ask.

Like I say, try Freedom of Information for a spin-free answer:

[email protected]

[Guinness]

Including loaded questions as a gauge is counter productive.

Since the majority of posts both here, and on the Telegraph website are basically telling council to stop wasting your time on frivolities and, to quote one poster on the telegraph site, 'populist bandwagons', maybe our councillors should actually start work on what most members of the local population really want instead of constantly poking their noses into nationwide issues.

So as a Hyndburn resident, I hereby lobby our council to take a look at, and deal with, the local concerns posted in various threads on this website and stop mucking about. (and pigs might fly)

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Ken Moss

Like I say, try Freedom of Information for a spin-free answer:

[email protected]

They cost the tax payer money.

Some poor council employee, taken away from the duties they were employed to do, running round, finding the information that people requested.

Perhaps most people would consider that a waste of their taxes, in these harsh economic times, when we are already experiencing cuts in services.

Or rather, another waste of money.

Along with this recently carried out survey, carried out on behalf of the council, and something the council presumably thinks is a newsorthy idea. Seeing as details were given to the press.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Guinness

...maybe our councillors should actually start work on what most members of the local population really want instead of constantly poking their noses into nationwide issues.

But our councillors are big players on the international, as well as the national stage.

Where would Pakistan be in the Kashmir conflict, without the backing of Hyndburn International Borough Council?

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Ken Moss

The honest answer Barrie is that I don't know, it's not my committee. However, since that committee has no budget it seems unlikely that they would have commissioned a survey, particularly in view of the recent lobbying by external parties. It's a nationwide issue in any case, at the moment government is looking to implement plain packaging on cigarette packets so it could be part of that. I haven't been part of it directly so I'm really not the best person to ask.

Like I say, try Freedom of Information for a spin-free answer:

[email protected]

Ho Hum its not your committee Ken

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by jaysay

Ho Hum its not your committee Ken

Thought they did away with committes by in 2002

[garinda]

Originally Posted by jaysay

Ho Hum its not your committee Ken

Cllr. Ken's on the dog dirt, and night vision committees.