HBC have taken away the benches from outside the market - Page 12

Ken Moss · 02-11-2011, 11:40

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Originally Posted by garinda

It was a stupid decision.

It hasn't resulted in the drinkers leaving the town centre.

The only single person who doesn't think it ludicrous happens to be a councillor.

Go figure.

I don't ever remember saying that it isn't ludicrous or that the intention was to move them out of the town centre. I have said that it isn't ideal and that the intention was to move them away from the Market Hall.

You make comments and expect answers yet when you get them you don't read them so post more comments.

No wonder your post count is so high.

Go figure.

garinda · 02-11-2011, 11:44

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Originally Posted by Ken Moss

all the surrounding towns have benches and car parks where you have to pay

Where?

Can you name all the surrounding towns, where you have to pay to sit on a bench?

Could you please list them, so as I can avoid them, when I'm shopping in places other than Accrington, as I now do.

Thanks.

garinda · 02-11-2011, 11:47

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Originally Posted by Ken Moss

I don't ever remember saying that it isn't ludicrous or that the intention was to move them out of the town centre. I have said that it isn't ideal and that the intention was to move them away from the Market Hall.

You make comments and expect answers yet when you get them you don't read them so post more comments.

No wonder your post count is so high.

Go figure.

But there has been no satisfactory answer as to what has be achieved.

Firstly by removing the benches, and then, at some unspecified time in the future, putting them back.

I'm sure we'd all love to figure that.

garinda · 02-11-2011, 11:50

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Originally Posted by garinda

But there has been no satisfactory answer as to what has be achieved.

Firstly by removing the benches, and then, at some unspecified time in the future, putting them back.

I'm sure we'd all love to figure that.

garinda · 02-11-2011, 11:58

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Originally Posted by Ken Moss

it was a joint decision which was influenced by the police..

...and who made the decision, as no one has actually said, so far.

Almost like it's veiled in secrecy.

Who was it?

Benipete · 02-11-2011, 12:03

There are some comfortable seats just inside the Halifax on Union St.I was sitting on one on Monday when an elderly lady sat beside me and inquired as to who I was waiting to see.

I replied know one and explained that I had just come in for a rest and to shelter from the cold.

She looked back aghast and in amazement.

All was going well till my daughter chirped in with.

"Ignore the old fool he's waiting for me"

'Twas then It dawned on me that this could be the solution to the bench problem.

They do that little bit Xtra.

garinda · 02-11-2011, 12:18

I'm sure for some this is no big issue, and a fuss about nothing.

For me, it isn't.

They are on the route we take when we shop in Acrington.

On at least hald a dozen occasions I've been happy to sit there. Having needed to rest, or being unable to walk. It's more comfortable to sit, than it is to lean against a wall, when this happens.

I've honestly never sat there with drinkers. It's usually chatty old ladies, who want a natter, in my experience.

Neil · 02-11-2011, 12:24

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Originally Posted by Ken Moss

No, and I still haven't heard a credible solution to actually getting rid of the drunks as opposed to simply moving them on.

Is the no alcohol zone, or whatever its called, still enforceable in the town centre or are the signs just meaningless and not enforceable like many other sign HBC use to try and make people be good?

If they are enforceable why are no arrests made?

Why are the police not arresting these drunk people under the laws they already have instead of ignoring the issue?

Sorry to be asking you the questions as its not your area but your the only councillor taking part in this thread at the moment.

garinda · 02-11-2011, 12:30

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Originally Posted by Ken Moss

You make comments and expect answers yet when you get them you don't read them so post more comments.

No wonder your post count is so high.

Go figure.

That's easy for most folks to figure out.

Many questions are answered with totally unsatisfactory replies...or are met with deafening silence.

garinda · 02-11-2011, 12:37

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Originally Posted by Ken Moss

No wonder your post count is so high

Post, like penis envy, has never really been a great concern for me.

Though I do try and be sympathetic to those it is a worry for.

Like everyone else, if I think something needs saying, I'll say it.

cashman · 02-11-2011, 12:40

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Originally Posted by Ken Moss

Not especially, particularly as the police are trying to do as good a job as they can whilst facing cutbacks and greater demands from the public every day. Arresting the drunks doesn't work, would you care to suggest to the local police how they could better solve the problem? I'm genuinely sure they'll be delighted to hear anything constructive that residents have to say.

It's not ideal and no one is pretending that it is but I haven't heard one solution put forward on this forum.

Thats called passing the buck to me Ken,

everyones aware its the polices job, using cutbacks as n excuse "Not" to do there job is pathetic in my view, or are the council in too cosy a position wi em to apply pressure?

mobertol · 02-11-2011, 12:40

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Originally Posted by garinda

...and who made the decision, as no one has actually said, so far.

Almost like it's veiled in secrecy.

Who was it?

Looks like you won't get an answer to this one either.

He's a great side-stepper is Mr Moss - all this " they will be going back at some stage" - but always no specifics. Perhaps he's practising for the next General Election - I wonder if he can see his reflection in the screen as he's writing and is smiling too

mobertol · 02-11-2011, 12:47

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Originally Posted by Ken Moss

Arresting the drunks doesn't work, would you care to suggest to the local police how they could better solve the problem? I'm genuinely sure they'll be delighted to hear anything constructive that residents have to say.

It's not ideal and no one is pretending that it is but I haven't heard one solution put forward on this forum.

There have always been drunks of course....

Visited the village of Heptonstall last year, in a corner they had the original "Lock-up" where in the past the village drunks got deposited until sober. It was constructed out of brick was only a few meters square and had only a door - no windows or facilitiesand looked pretty damp and dirty. I expect it worked for most after one or two visits....

lancsdave · 02-11-2011, 13:05

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Originally Posted by mobertol

He's a great side-stepper is Mr Moss - all this " they will be going back at some stage" - but always no specifics.

In fairness as Neil said he is the only one attempting to answer the question, I can only assume from the answers given I suggest he is only telling us what he has been told and is not directly involved.

garinda · 02-11-2011, 13:07

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Originally Posted by garinda

That's easy for most folks to figure out.

Many questions are answered with totally unsatisfactory replies...or are met with deafening silence.

In fact Ken, you could do me a favour, and prevent me wasting another couple of hundred posts.

Have a word with your old mate Graham Jones, and get him to answer the question as to why he said one thing on here, that he has no problem with an E.U. referendum, as it would settle thing democratically, then voted against giving us this right.

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...ing-59650.html

Thanks.

I'll wait, leaning against this wall, seeing as there are no seats, until you get him to reply.